Like I said, we haven't targeted the kokes up there for several years. We found them on the west side across from the city ramp, in 30-50 feet of water. I think I mentioned in a previous post last year that when we were checked one day by F & G they laughed when I told them we limited on kokanee, and said they would show us the difference between coho and kokes. They came over, mentioned the teeth/no teeth thing, and then when they stuck their finger in the fishes mouth, were quite surprised. They had no idea there were good number of kokanee at that time. Today could be another question altogether. Numbers might be down, as well as size. These fish we were catching were the same size as the big guys at LP. The only certainty about Cascade that I have discovered over 50 years of fishing it, it that you have to rediscover it every year. Different locations, different numbers, and different lures. It always provides a challenge. Mike