Kokanee Derby?

[BigggCountry]

How come all the other Kokeheads in other states get to have a Derby and we don't here in ID? Is there not enough interest? Or do we have one and I've never heard.

[BlueBack79]

http://www.kokaneefishingforum.com/fishing-forums/showthread.php?t=4409&page=2

[DowntownBrowns]

....."get to have a Derby".....

If you want to have a derby, get together with a few people from this board and just have everyone put in 5 bucks. That's GRASSROOTS baby!

[gonefishing]

If you want to have a derby, here are a couple of suggestions:

Find 1-2 sponsors (this really helps)

Pick a location:

Depending on the location, and a marina that would participate and run the tournamnent is a plus.

If not, it will take about 5 individuals or so to plan, organize and manage the tournament.

Consider rules used at other derbys and customize to fit Idaho Koke fishermans needs.

Set the dery date 1 year in advanace. (next year)

Don't worry about who is going to benefit from a derby. The committee would post a fincial cost and results after the conclusion of the derby.

It would take a minimum of 50 participants at $20.00 entrance fees to put on a low cost tournament, a low cost compared to the $80 to $140 of other derby's. $20.00 is down right cheap!

Plan on meeting people and having fun!

So, who would like to participate in helping to get one off the ground, or in the water at least! You will be working towards next year.

Send me a PM and I will start a data base of people to work with to get this going!

Tight lines

Gonefishing 101chromefish101

[spoons]

I'm in......<--(---:<

[MMDON]

I wouldn't want to see Kokanee derbies in S.E. Idaho. Derbies represent major culling of fish. If you have a lake with an abundance of fish that shouldn't be a problem. I wonder how many fishermen at say . . . Lucky Peak would like to see 200 boats cull a hundred fish apiece in one weekend to get to the weigh in. My understanding is that Idaho under planted the needed Kokanee amounts the last few years. This wouldn't help the small numbers we now have in the least. JMHO

[Excaliber]

Lucky Peak would like to see 200 boats cull a hundred fish apiece in one weekend to get to the weigh in. My understanding is that Idaho under planted the needed Kokanee amounts the last few years. This wouldn't help the small numbers we now have in the least. JMHO

That would suck but LP doesn't have the fishing area/ hotspots for 200 boats and none of those boats are going to get anywhere close to 100 fish in a two day tourney. Most boats wouldn't even limit.

[Lunddude]

That would suck but LP doesn't have the fishing area/ hotspots for 200 boats and none of those boats are going to get anywhere close to 100 fish in a two day tourney. Most boats wouldn't even limit.

I would have to agree. Let's have one at Anderson and get rid of all these dink kokes so maybe we can start growing some bigger ones like you guys have in Lucky Peak & Arrowrock. One thing about holding a tourney at Anderson is there is plenty of room for boats to spread out, unlike fishing the fishbowl out in front of Spring Shores. My vote goes to Anderson tooexcited

[Lunddude]

I wouldn't want to see Kokanee derbies in S.E. Idaho. Derbies represent major culling of fish. If you have a lake with an abundance of fish that shouldn't be a problem. I wonder how many fishermen at say . . . Lucky Peak would like to see 200 boats cull a hundred fish apiece in one weekend to get to the weigh in. My understanding is that Idaho under planted the needed Kokanee amounts the last few years. This wouldn't help the small numbers we now have in the least. JMHO

200 boats really? I highly doubt that. I think you would be lucky to get 1/2 of that.

[DLM]

I have some experience with the Oregon Derbies over the past several years.

1. We have never had more than 30-35 boats, you will never get 200 boats.

2. Set your entries up as teams. Teams can be any number but all have to fish from the same boat.

3. Each team weighs in five fish.

4. Even at the hottest lakes in the best of years, I don't think we have ever had a boat even reach a one person limit of 25. Don't worry about hundreds of fish being taken out of a lake, it ain't goin to happen.

Go to the Kokanee Power of Oregon website and look at the derby rules, that should give you some ideas.

Derbies can be a great deal of fun for the entire family, especially if you have a junior division for the kids to enter and win prizes.


http://kokaneepoweroregon.com/Derbies.html

[Lunddude]

I have some experience with the Oregon Derbies over the past several years.

1. We have never had more than 30-35 boats, you will never get 200 boats.

2. Set your entries up as teams. Teams can be any number but all have to fish from the same boat.

3. Each team weighs in five fish.

4. Even at the hottest lakes in the best of years, I don't think we have ever had a boat even reach a one person limit of 25. Don't worry about hundreds of fish being taken out of a lake, it ain't goin to happen.

Go to the Kokanee Power of Oregon website and look at the derby rules, that should give you some ideas.

Derbies can be a great deal of fun for the entire family, especially if you have a junior division for the kids to enter and win prizes.


http://kokaneepoweroregon.com/Derbies.html

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[MMDON]

Tourneys attract fishermen that do limit out, unless the limit is 25. They do cull fish and they do prefish very heavily. As warm as the water is at Lucky Peak, I imagine the death rate of released fish might shock you. At most lakes there is very few days that I couldn't boat and release 50 fish if I didn't feel it would hurt my resources. JMHO

[Excaliber]

Tourneys attract fishermen that do limit out, unless the limit is 25. They do cull fish and they do prefish very heavily. As warm as the water is at Lucky Peak, I imagine the death rate of released fish might shock you. At most lakes there is very few days that I couldn't boat and release 50 fish if I didn't feel it would hurt my resources. JMHO

Come fish LP and let us know how you do.

[BlueBack79]

At most lakes there is very few days that I couldn't boat and release 50 fish if I didn't feel it would hurt my resources.

do you fish l.p. or arrowrock much? pretty bold statement. i've got $100 and a half eaten chicken for ya, if you do the above at either place.

[MMDON]

I don't know guys because I don't know how you fish. I carry 500 or more lures and at least 200 dodgers every time I hit the water. We switch out 4 or more lines on 15 minute intervals. Most guys are running Furuno fish finders with huge transducers so you can tell not only the species but the size of the fish you are looking at and you can run 30 mph across the lake looking for fish. Kokanee fishing is a science so we know exactly how deep 56.5 degrees is in the water column and that depth varies due to current and structure. I'm also not sure you are testing light penetration in the water column due to debris and plankton percentages. Then there is optimum lure speed at depth and even calm lakes have subcurrents so measuring the lure speed at the weight is pretty important. On our local lake in S.East Idaho we shagged 30 two year olds at the side of the boat by 8 am. this morning looking for large 3 year olds.

Like I said, it all depends on how you fish and how serious you want to take it all.

[kodiak1]

Just a heads up: don't ever bet against Don! Mike

[MackayGuy]

The wind seems to blow a lot harder on the east side of the state. I've fished next to boats that I saw no one land a fish....talked to the same guys at the dock and listened to them complain that the fishing was crappy, then they get on here and brag about limiting out in just a couple hours. Yeah I know who you were by your boat description, etc. Have a derby and let some of these guys show everyone how it's done. I never doubt anyone till I see it in person.

[BlueBack79]

Just a heads up: don't ever bet against Don! Mike

my wager stands....except it's now a three quarter eaten chicken...had some for lunchlaugh hyst

[MMDON]

When I get over to fish your neck of the woods I'll take you up on your chicken and your money . . .

Fish from this morning.

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg563/MMDon/6242012Ririe005.jpg

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg563/MMDon/6242012Ririe001.jpg

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg563/MMDon/6242012Ririe008.jpg

The wind was blowing out there . . .
http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg563/MMDon/6242012Ririe007.jpg

[BlueBack79]

wow, i would like to see some bruisers like that, over here. chicken is now gone. i'll whip you up some home made chicken broth instead.

[MMDON]

Maybe just a Koke Fry! 101chromefish101