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fish4kok
07-31-2017, 10:29 PM
Thanks FSHFNDR and F-Bomb for answer my question. So the GPS integrated in the fish finder device is a good tracking for the slow moving boat. I did try my old Tom Tom GPS on the lake and it couldn't track the slow moving speed.

Last year I upgraded my kicker motor steering with the TR1 autopilot and I love it. It has the GPS interface but I only need just the trolling speed. I'll do more research on the Garmin depth finder and hopefully will get one before year end.

Often I tracking my trolling speed by looking at my DR line and something float on the water, when the line pass by the object then I count one thousand one (~1 second) and guess how far the line passed that object, often that was 14" ~ 16"/sec. With that guess my calculate is about .8 ~ .9 MPH. I often caught fish with that guessing but with a device that read the slow moving speed is perhaps more accuracy and prefer.

I'll headed to Anderson Ranch tomorrow, that will be a long day and hopefully the Kokanee still hot.

nepetbutler
08-01-2017, 02:28 AM
Thanks FSHFNDR and F-Bomb for answer my question. So the GPS integrated in the fish finder device is a good tracking for the slow moving boat. I did try my old Tom Tom GPS on the lake and it couldn't track the slow moving speed.

Last year I upgraded my kicker motor steering with the TR1 autopilot and I love it. It has the GPS interface but I only need just the trolling speed. I'll do more research on the Garmin depth finder and hopefully will get one before year end.

Often I tracking my trolling speed by looking at my DR line and something float on the water, when the line pass by the object then I count one thousand one (~1 second) and guess how far the line passed that object, often that was 14" ~ 16"/sec. With that guess my calculate is about .8 ~ .9 MPH. I often caught fish with that guessing but with a device that read the slow moving speed is perhaps more accuracy and prefer.

I'll headed to Anderson Ranch tomorrow, that will be a long day and hopefully the Kokanee still hot.
Before I got a humminbird helix 5.I used GPS on my compass app on my phone . 1 koke on pink today 25'

FSHFNDR
08-01-2017, 02:32 PM
1.8 mph when I caught the Chinook.

KokaneeJoe, since you seem to be running into Chinook I want to target, any suggestions on tackle setup? I have using some herring in helmets but probably need a big Flasher with them.

KokaneeJoe
08-01-2017, 11:22 PM
KokaneeJoe, since you seem to be running into Chinook I want to target, any suggestions on tackle setup? I have using some herring in helmets but probably need a big Flasher with them.

Only caught the one big one. I can only tell what I used; A small orange/pink dodger a short leader and matching bug (Murphy's Kokanee Kombo) with leading hook tipped with a kernel of shoepeg corn in tuna juice. Set back 35 feet and 30 feet deep on a downrigger. Just standard kokanee gear.

trmaret
08-07-2017, 07:08 PM
Can anyone give me a report on Lucky Peak kokanee fishing?

formulaben
08-08-2017, 01:24 AM
If one of you found something at the West Dock at Spring Shores and left it at the Marina on Sunday morning I owe you a huge thank you...if it was you, please PM me.

nepetbutler
08-08-2017, 09:34 AM
Can anyone give me a report on Lucky Peak kokanee fishing?
My girlfriend landed a 17" koke near the bay on the left almost to goose neck on pink 2" squid w/ smiley blade, pink dodger at 25' down, 1.5mph.from 11-2. Those Kokes were on and gone. many times. Going back now. Ran out of my pink anise soaked Firecorn.if you smell bacon wave!

fish4kok
08-10-2017, 09:53 PM
Solo fishing 4 hrs today at LP. First 2 hrs (10:00 ~ 12:00 PM) there wasn't any bite at all. Afternoon boated 3 - 13" kok at 25' deep and 1 last year planed Chinnok (released). Ford fender + orange kokabow + shoepeg corn. The water temp. was much cooler than in the Anderson. That was 67 deg. in the morning, later in afternoon in some area that was 72 deg.
Talked to other couple at loading dock, they caught 3 trout and 1 kok at 23' deep.

Pauli
08-23-2017, 02:17 PM
Well, we should be at spawning time by now. Has anyone given it a try in the past few weeks? There hasn't been a post here in a solid 2 weeks. Will head up the hill this week to see about catching a few of next year's fish.

nepetbutler
08-24-2017, 01:21 AM
Well, we should be at spawning time by now. Has anyone given it a try in the past few weeks? There hasn't been a post here in a solid 2 weeks. Will head up the hill this week to see about catching a few of next year's fish.
Sunday 0 fish,too windy. Monday nailed 5 koke only at 1 pm at birch creek. Down 25 ' silver slingblade pink hoochie w/ smiley blade 1.4 mph bout 60" off bank. All silver, 16", no big spawners

Pauli
08-24-2017, 01:44 AM
Thanks for the update. I'll probably head up Friday morning..... Tomorrow morning I will need to go into Boise to cash my $700,000,000 lotto ticket. laugh hystlaugh hystlaugh hyst

Physion
08-25-2017, 06:09 PM
I just got back from Lucky Peak. I got five nice kokanee in an hour and a half. It took me another hour and 15 minutes to get the last fish. All were caught near Spring Shores. I used my three bladed silver trolls with pink spinners and shoe peg corn with no scent. One line was 75 feet out with 2 ounces of weight and the other was 100 feet out with an ounce and a half of weight. Trolling speed was between 1.5 and 1.7 mph. A great day compared to the others I've had on LP this year. I hope to see some more days like this.

fish4kok
08-25-2017, 07:44 PM
I just got back from Lucky Peak. I got five nice kokanee in an hour and a half. It took me another hour and 15 minutes to get the last fish. All were caught near Spring Shores. I used my three bladed silver trolls with pink spinners and shoe peg corn with no scent. One line was 75 feet out with 2 ounces of weight and the other was 100 feet out with an ounce and a half of weight. Trolling speed was between 1.5 and 1.7 mph. A great day compared to the others I've had on LP this year. I hope to see some more days like this.

Congratulation Physion! That was great!
I was fishing in Goose Neck Bay and troll toward the water pipe by Spring Shore. Fish with both DR and varied depth and didn't set up long line pole. I got no bite in 3.5 hrs trolling.

Have a nice week end.

F-Bomb
09-03-2017, 11:30 AM
Finally made it back up to LP for a dose of man therapy. (BSU football, cigars, a touch of bourbon, food and BS'ing) Whilst plying our trade, accidentally quite a nice number of fish decided to interrupt the proceedings.

Slow start with only a couple of the baby 10" Chinooks and a $#*^ing squaw fish for the first two hours. Just about the time we decided that the only thing interested was these juvenile salmon we finally got a koke and it was healthy and had the nice football shape to it's 15"es. Slowly but surely throughout the rest of the day a nice collection of exact clones joined the fun. We got the first one at 13ft and had to drop 2ft per hour to keep things consistent. It ended up being a pretty busy day when you added up all of the baby Chinooks with the Kokanee. Also may have finally found an adult Chinook as we had something hammer a setup, rip off line, and then the leader gave up at the lure. Most likely the leader was compromised because it had been battle tested fifty plus times without being replaced and I'm lazy and don't bother changing things out every trip. Regardless what ever grabbed on this time was a more significant player than your everyday LP aquatic invertebrate!

Macks four blade silver troll lite long leader (using five plus feet now) to Macks orange WR spinner with a silver hammer blade. I've been using two WR spinner setups one stock blade with a treble hook and the other has a notch larger spinner blade. The larger blade seems very slightly more active but I have not kept absolute track.

Average 2.3 mph trolled 40ft back of the DR ball down only 10ft through 18ft with white shoe-peg soaked in tuna oil and blue herring oil. Also caught alot of baby Chinooks on the same setup with bullet weights 3/4 ounce total back 110ft. No kokes on this setup so we know we were not in the exact water column/depth but once again...too lazy to bother hunting and the two DR setups offered plenty of action that was interrupting the relaxing. (re-lighting your cigar over and over is bad juju)

I've said this before on this site...and I'm really not joking. We started to catch kokes after we lit up! They seem to actually like it!101idea101

nepetbutler
09-04-2017, 01:39 AM
Lots of bites not far from ramp between 8-11 am. Down 25' 1.5 mph on pink squid,silver dodger . Zigzagging around. Landed 4 Kokes,4 trout. Had to sit in front of my AC cause it was so hot. Too hot to cook bacon.

Pauli
09-04-2017, 02:27 AM
Going to head back up on Tuesday morning. I am not big on fishing on weekends and holidays during the summer. Was going to go for the past few weeks but have been getting side tracked. Being retired has its benefits. Hope you guys left a few.

Pauli

nepetbutler
09-05-2017, 10:34 AM
Going to head back up on Tuesday morning. I am not big on fishing on weekends and holidays during the summer. Was going to go for the past few weeks but have been getting side tracked. Being retired has its benefits. Hope you guys left a few.

Pauli
See u there. Green / white crestliner. Pirate flag. Sardine scent working well

KokaneeJoe
09-05-2017, 11:37 PM
Had a wonderful day on Lucky Peak today catching up with an old friend. 2 poles, 12 Kokes, 6 trout, and a bunch of baby Chinook (released). Fished for about 7 hours in the Birch Creek area. 20-30 feet deep, 50 foot setback, at 2mph. Best rig for kokanee was a pink/orange kokanee fly 12 inches behind a pink sling blade tipped with shoepeg in tuna juice. The kokes were in very good condition fat and sassy!

crappieslayer
09-07-2017, 01:49 PM
Fished Lucky Peak yesterday. Using 2 downriggers and tried various depths and speeds. First few hours all I got was tail slaps kicking pole from downrigger clip. Was trolling then at 1.9.
Changed depth to 29 ft on both rods, changed speed to 1.6 to 1.7, and did tons of s turns through where I was marking fish. Caught 2 13 to 14 inch kokes and had lots of misses over the next hour.

G3 longliner
09-07-2017, 08:36 PM
Fished Lucky Peak yesterday. Using 2 downriggers and tried various depths and speeds. First few hours all I got was tail slaps kicking pole from downrigger clip. Was trolling then at 1.9.
Changed depth to 29 ft on both rods, changed speed to 1.6 to 1.7, and did tons of s turns through where I was marking fish. Caught 2 13 to 14 inch kokes and had lots of misses over the next hour.

went today was slow tried everything and depth ( longlining ) 1 Kok 14 in 2 trout 16-17 in - they fight twice as hard as a Kok - released 1 chinook and 1 small tagged trout - cold and windy till around 11 am killed a SQUAW fish Got to watch some firefighters rappelling from chopper ( training ) was cool

kokaneekevin
09-08-2017, 04:24 AM
Went up to LP on Wed with my wife. Boy was it smokey and hardly anybody there. Only one other boat trailer in the east parking lot. Fished from 9:30 to 3:30. Initially started with 2 lines, using 2oz and 3oz weights, long-lining. One with a ford fender and orange spinner, one with a pink/green Kokabow dodger with a pink hoochie. Marked fish from the low teens to 30' down but couldn't get any to bite. Finally caught our first fish after about an hour but it was a squaw fish. Had 1 or 2 other quick hits but no hookups. Set up a third line on my downrigger using another ford fender and orange hoochie. Set depth to 21'/22'. No action until we went around the corner through the narrows to the bay on the left. Finally got some action on the downrigger and landed our first Koke. Dialed in the other lines to be fishing in the low 20s. All lines started getting hits and we were finally getting some Kokes in the boat. But the trout bite was really on as well. Not sure why, but I bet every other fish we landed was a trout. Ended up landing 9 very nice Kokes (most at 14"+/-, but a couple really fat ones pushing 15"). All were silvery, mostly hefty, and I think all were next year's fish as the females had very immature roe in them. We also caught 8 or 9 trout (13-14"), keeping 5 and releasing the others. We also fished down from that bay to Birch Creek, catching a few Kokes and trout along the way, but the best luck was in that first bay (where we returned later in the afternoon to catch several more). Both the trout and Kokes were hitting really hard, zipping off line and setting off the clickers like crazy (which is a lot of fun to hear) and jumping out of the water. Very few subtle taps. Big fighters all the way to the boat, but we didn't lose any at the boat. My wife is a great netter! :) Did lose a few before they got close to the boat - otherwise known as normal Kokanee fishing. Lots of fun!

And finally, I hate to admit this. My wife caught a tagged trout and I didn't know what it was. How embarrassing! In 20+ years of fishing in this area, I had never caught one nor seen one caught. So I didn't know what a tagged trout looks like. My bad! I just thought it was somehow foul-hooked some time back, with some weird line/lure still hanging on. Duh! It didn't seem to be bothering the trout and so I didn't want to mess with it - possibly making it worse. So we released it and it happily swam away. As I now know, some of those tags actually have a reward on them. Who knows if this one had a reward. I know, what a dork! Probably will never catch another one, but Live and Learn!

KokaneeKevin
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F-Bomb
09-08-2017, 10:50 AM
....after reading some posts and comparing what happened for us on the last trip I think I see a pattern for LP. We've noticed orange works shallow and best once the sun gets up on the water. We have had almost no action on orange unless the sun is out on the water. So because I'm a "fisherman" and proper fishing means lines wet by pre-dawn we have spent the first two to three hours of several days at LP puttering around bored. Then just like magic and just like described in other posts the action starts up once the sun is up and the "net" result is just another great day of koke fishing at LP.

The other thing I'm starting to think is that if you are fishing 20ft or down you better have on pink. So orange shallow and pink deeper...go get em

fish4kok
09-12-2017, 03:24 PM
My wife and I fishing in LP yesterday from 9 til 2:00PM. We caught 3 Kok about 13". One fish was red color, I thought the spawning in LP already done for this year? The other 2 were silver. Beside that we caught 6 Chinook (released), no trout and squaw fish. DR from 20' ~ 30'. Long line 1.5oz sinker 3 blades flasher + Kokabow pink spinner.
LP level is 18' down, Tunner Gulch ramp 5 docks section in the water. All other camping boat docks around the reservoir were dry. Time of the year, after Labor day the level of the reservoir drops about 2.5'/day.

fish4kok
09-15-2017, 03:36 PM
Yesterday my wife and I went fishing in LP and also testing the new Garmin echoMap 53CV. After I parked the trailer, I walked down the ramp and saw my wife walking up. I thought she forgot something in the truck or she need to go to the rest room. Then when she asked:
Where are the fishing poles?
@#$%^!!!!
I forgot all the Kok. fishing poles at home.
I just laugh and said: They still hang on the garage ceiling. Dang! Every fishing gears were on the boat except Kokanee fishing rod and reels.
I never see that disappointing on her face... In my mind there were few spare fishing rod in the fishing rod compartment. And yes there were two 4.5' rod for crappie fishing but only one has a tiny spinning reel. So the solution to catch fish was she fish with the pole with reel. I fish with the other pole with the spool of fishing line (~ 100 yard left).
It was windy, so we start from Charcoal creek toward the dam, I caught the first fish by the Pipeling Gulch with the DR at 10'. That was fun to reel the fish in with the spool on left hand and short fishing pole on the right hand, the width of the spool about 1/2" wide so many time I missed that gap when I wind the line up. We net the first kokanee then she had fish bite on her pole. After we caught 2 fish then it's quiet for about an hour. Then I heard a whistle, people yelled for help and I look around. There were a boat on the other side with men use jackets wave at us. I honk the horn to answer then we took all fishing lines up then run toward them. There were two fishermen on the fiberglass boat.

We ran out of gas!!!

We towed them 1.76 miles back to Turner Gulch boat ramp (According the Garmin 53CV) at the speed 6.3 MPH. They ask to paid us for the gas but we didn't take it and then we ran up to Goose Neck Bay.

There were 2 boats fishing in this area. There were 2 fishermen on the boat net fish, later I got a chance to ask for the fishing depth. 30' they said. The line on my wife fishing reel was about ~50' long, so she barely let the line down to that depth. We caught 3 more kok at that depth, 3 good size trout(released) 1 little Chinook (released). So that wasn't bad day fishing at all :).

Garmin 53CV echoMap. It was on sale on Labor Day so I bought it. The unit is working very good and there were many functions, bells and whistle that I need to learn. The map chart at LP has shore line display and doesn't have 1' contour like Deadwood Res. It has satellite speed that I really like when trolling, I still have struggle with the sonar reading and zoom option for fish...

Boat docks at Turner Gulch probably dry today, last section dock floated yesterday. I don't know when portable dock will be install. Water level down 26' as of today.

Fall is coming very quick. Good luck for fishing at LP.

KokaneeJoe
09-16-2017, 11:46 PM
We fished from 10 am. to 4 pm. 2 poles, 8 Kokanee and 4 rainbow and a bunch of small Chinook. Caught the majority at about 20 feet on dodgers and Orange/Pink Kokanee flies.

A bit slow but not bad and one of the prettiest days of the year.

KokaneeJoe
09-27-2017, 12:06 PM
Put in at Spring shores yesterday. No dock and a muddy shore. They are dropping the water level fast. Fished mostly in the Gooseneck bay area. Caught only 2 Kokes and 2 Trout. Other people in the area seemed to be doing better than us. We had a hard time keeping those little chinooks off the line. More than half the time you couldn't even tell they were on. We dragged several of them around for quite a while before checking our lines. Both Kokanee we caught were at 23' on dw on pink sling blade and pink spinner/fly.
Will try to put in at Turner today. Hopefully there is still the little dock in the water.

fish4kok
09-27-2017, 12:29 PM
KokaneeJoe,
Thank you for the information about the boat ramp and dock at Spring shore, I'll launch my at Turner Gulch ramp. I'll be on the Blue top riverboat. See ya

fish4kok
09-28-2017, 12:55 AM
It was nice to meet you KokaneeJoe. Thank you for your post today that help me saving my time to tow my boat up to Spring Shore Marina.
We didn't do good today. We start fishing about noon at Charcoal Creek, in 5 minutes my wife got a Chinook at 15' on DR. About 15 minutes later I caught a trout at 10' then nothing hit about an hour. We run up to Spring Shore and fishing there, there were few boats fishing in the area but there weren't much action.

My friend got his kok limit and 5 trout on last Sunday. He fish with long line pole, 4 oz sinker, Ford fender + kokabow orange and ~80' line out. I tried same setup today and didn't get any bite. :) Most fishermen quit at 2:00PM. We troll back to Goose Neck Bay and caught 1 more small Chinook.

Water level 58' down as of today, water temp ~63 deg. Portable boat dock fully float.

Hopefully we'll catch some kok on next trip.

G3 longliner
09-28-2017, 10:38 AM
It was nice to meet you KokaneeJoe. Thank you for your post today that help me saving my time to tow my boat up to Spring Shore Marina.
We didn't do good today. We start fishing about noon at Charcoal Creek, in 5 minutes my wife got a Chinook at 15' on DR. About 15 minutes later I caught a trout at 10' then nothing hit about an hour. We run up to Spring Shore and fishing there, there were few boats fishing in the area but there weren't much action.

My friend got his kok limit and 5 trout on last Sunday. He fish with long line pole, 4 oz sinker, Ford fender + kokabow orange and ~80' line out. I tried same setup today and didn't get any bite. :) Most fishermen quit at 2:00PM. We troll back to Goose Neck Bay and caught 1 more small Chinook.

Water level 58' down as of today, water temp ~63 deg. Portable boat dock fully float.

Hopefully we'll catch some kok on next trip.


Fished yesterday from 10-2 and did get four Koks 13-15 inch all in front of Marina

KokaneeJoe
09-28-2017, 03:45 PM
It was nice to meet you KokaneeJoe.

Likewise fish4kok!
It was nice meeting you as well.

We also did poorly yesterday. Only a few little chinooks but I forgot to get fuel so we had to leave early.
4oz. at 80 feet I believe is quite a bit deeper than we have caught them lately. I reckon that to be about 40' deep. We did not try deeper than 30' on the dw. Maybe that was our problem.

G3 longliner
09-28-2017, 06:21 PM
Likewise fish4kok!
It was nice meeting you as well.

We also did poorly yesterday. Only a few little chinooks but I forgot to get fuel so we had to leave early.
4oz. at 80 feet I believe is quite a bit deeper than we have caught them lately. I reckon that to be about 40' deep. We did not try deeper than 30' on the dw. Maybe that was our problem.

I long line with 1 oz out 100 ft should be about 18-20 ft down i went deeper but nada i dont like much more weight than that drags to much and no fight - see ya tomorrow

KokaneeJoe
09-28-2017, 10:51 PM
I long line with 1 oz out 100 ft should be about 18-20 ft down i went deeper but nada i dont like much more weight than that drags to much and no fight - see ya tomorrow

Yup. That is about the depth we have been getting a few for a while now (15-25' dw)

fish4kok
09-28-2017, 11:54 PM
I long line with 1 oz out 100 ft should be about 18-20 ft down i went deeper but nada i dont like much more weight than that drags to much and no fight - see ya tomorrow

Sunny with blue sky and 78 deg. tomorrow. Best luck.

G3 longliner
09-30-2017, 11:35 AM
Sunny with blue sky and 78 deg. tomorrow. Best luck.



Yesterday was my last day at LP no KOKS got 4 nice trout which i released I see a lot of boats headed for the Goose Neck bay area - any one catch there? time to gear up for waterfowling

Physion
09-30-2017, 06:37 PM
I got two kok's, two rainbow, and two chinook yesterday. I caught fish opposite the north end of the nursery, near Birch Ck, and near Gooseneck. Just a fish here and there.

My record book from last year shows good fishing during the fall. Some limits were caught with 100 feet of line out and no weight, ie right near the surface. Most of the limits were caught from Gooseneck to the dam. We'll see how this year plays out.

Pauli
10-01-2017, 11:07 AM
I will head up to LP Monday....which may very well be the last trip out this year. This has been a disappointing year for Lucky Peak. Although I had great success at Anderson Ranch this year. I'll make plans to return there next season. All of those who said that the Kokes would show up at Lucky Peak after the "plankton bloom".... .."after the water level drops" ... "after the water temperature rises" ....etc etc etc were just plain wrong. They never did materialize in any great numbers. Sure, there were days of very mediocre fishing, but the glory just wasn't there. Hopefully Lucky Peak is just following a 3 year Koke cycle.... I hope so.... Otherwise, this fishery could be in big trouble.

Time to turn my attention back to the Salmon in the Columbia river (which is another sad story).

Pauli

F-Bomb
10-01-2017, 11:49 AM
Pauli...

You are right in that LP never did turn on to the traditional anyone with a Cinderella pole and corn nubbin can drag home a limit of 12" torpedoes but it was still really very solid. On average much bigger and more solid fish as well. Sure we had to put in more hours and often times run that extra pole or two that we didn't have to last year but it was still an excellent season. It ain't over yet either. If you had a disappointing season maybe it was technique?

sturgeon8r
10-01-2017, 01:58 PM
I have to agree with Pauli on a few of the points. We have been fishing up at LP for the last 5 yrs. Last yr and this yr were pretty disappointing. Spring summer fall. 10 feet or 30 feet. It was hit and miss. land a fish go back through and nothing. Never found the pockets of fish we use to see 3 yrs ago. Arrowrock NO one says anything about anymore. They draw it down yr after yr to about the same levels every yr. Maybe leave little more water so it does not get so warm late in the season? IMO....... That road has always been a BEAR!!!!!!. I hope Pauli is correct and it is the 3 yr cycle. Fishing is done for me this yr. Steelhead fishery is closed. You all have a great winter.

Pauli
10-01-2017, 04:03 PM
Thanks Sturgeon8r, You have a great winter too. This will be my last hurrah at LP and then it's time to head to the Columbia and the coast for the end of the fall salmon run. By the end of November the road through the Blues isn't conducive to hauling a boat. Then it's bird season for me..... with a few days reserved for skiing with my wife. Hopefully LP will recover....regardless of what some folks insinuate on this site, the decline in the fishery is quite disturbing.

Pauli

fish4kok
10-03-2017, 06:02 PM
I will head up to LP Monday....which may very well be the last trip out this year. This has been a disappointing year for Lucky Peak. Although I had great success at Anderson Ranch this year. I'll make plans to return there next season. All of those who said that the Kokes would show up at Lucky Peak after the "plankton bloom".... .."after the water level drops" ... "after the water temperature rises" ....etc etc etc were just plain wrong. They never did materialize in any great numbers. Sure, there were days of very mediocre fishing, but the glory just wasn't there. Hopefully Lucky Peak is just following a 3 year Koke cycle.... I hope so.... Otherwise, this fishery could be in big trouble.

Time to turn my attention back to the Salmon in the Columbia river (which is another sad story).

Pauli

Hi Pauli,
How was fishing on Monday? I'll plan to make few more trips to LP. Last year I fished in LP until the end of Nov. and did well too.

Pauli
10-03-2017, 11:01 PM
Hey Fish4kok,

We ended up delaying until Friday. Sometimes life just gets in the way....101thumbsdown101

F-Bomb
10-06-2017, 08:08 PM
Three guys with four poles fished from 9am to 3pm. Thirty plus in the boat and about ten on and then off's. A wild smorgasbord of fish. Finally caught a decent sized chinook (20"). Kokes all nice 15" and solid. One 17" that was a surprise after the spawn. Healthy and acrobatic. Also caught about ten small chinook and a handful of pretty big trout. All in all very active and we had multiple hook-ups over and over. Found most of them in the white pipe area and heresie theresie to gooseneck. Lots of boats at the pipe and then they all packed up and went to gooseneck as if by design. Maybe we smell bad? We didn't cause we were nailing them over and over. On the troll back to the dam we got a real nice bit of action just before the overlook after a long half mile troll without a sniff. This was like the good ole' days of LP and we never circled back over a bite. I couldn't even relax and enjoy my cigar! Cold and windy miserable for the first hour then flat out gorgeous to the end. Wonderful day!

We used a giant red/white triple teezer with 1/2 ounce of weight that did surprisingly well. Then the other three were my standard orange/silver blade wr behind a 4 wing paper flasher at 12ft to start and by the end 18ft. Trolled 2.45mph was the best action speed once the wind died down and we could be consistent.

There was a red silver metal boat that got out the net a few times while we were around them. Other than that we didn't see another fish caught but like I said almost everyone in eye sight left our area for gooseneck. We just trolled through on our way home so it is hard to say how guys were doing.

fish4kok
10-07-2017, 12:02 AM
We fish from 11:00 AM 'til 5:00PM. We caught 7 trout 2 chinook and a squaw fish (all released) and lost 2 kok close to the boat. The most action pole was the long line pole at 100' and no weight. Later I added 1.5 oz and 55' line. The DR from 13' to 20" Ford Fender + Kokabow, WR...

My trolling speed was 1.4 ~ 1.7 MPH and that was much slower than F-Bomb. I saw a black pontoon passed by gooseneck toward the dam and that was you F-Bomb. Glad that you guys did very well.

There were about 13 boats trolling around Gooseneck bay, just wonder how the other boats doing?

http://www.kokaneefishingforum.com/fishing-forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9254&d=1507387746

F-Bomb
10-07-2017, 12:20 PM
Fish4kok,

I didn't see any other black pontoon boats Friday so I'm sure that was me. Through the summer there was another one trolling around up there that looks similar.

Got the rare opportunity to take my Dad and Uncle on a day trip and it was a treat. My uncle is a fish catching machine. It's fun to get him kokanee fishing which is kind of an unusual science of techniques. He started out being pretty skeptical about my system but on our second or third double he got the idea. Most guys don't load the entire offering with the same setup but I have supreme confidence in my go-to system. You should have seen the look on his face when I filled my corn cup with this stinky blue goo. He started right in a story about his buddy putting some secret potion on at the sturgeon hole back in the day and it turned out to be sturgeon repellent. Well I assure you he is shopping for the Mike's blue herring oil as we speak!

My Dad has been fishing LP forever and has always been a fan of the triple teezer. We bought everyone we could ever find and they quit making them so over the 30 years the supply has dwindled down to a few. Somebody started putting them out again and he bought another bag full and showed up for fishing with them. Of course I want to catch fish and want to use the system that I know works but he's my Dad and it's simply proper to respect his wishes so when he comes we always drag one triple teezer. Surprisingly this time that double sized thing actually kept up with the other poles. You do have to troll pretty fast to keep the action up (which is how I discovered that faster is better with my WR spinner lures as well).

I need to issue a public apology to whomever was in the neighborhood yesterday when we got an epic three pole tangle and I unleashed a tirade of profanity. We did land the fish but the half hour of re-rigging my perfectly setup lure/flasher combos on three poles was not worth it. When you tangle spinner/multi-blase flasher on braided line it's a real problem. It's always cut everything apart and start over! GRRRRRR

fish4kok
10-08-2017, 04:25 PM
F-Bomb,
That's was a good fishing time with your Dad and uncle and there were many fishing stories to tell and laugh.
For myself that I believe everyone has some favorite lure or and rig setup to catch fish and they often stick with it. My kokanee fishing technique? change from time to time but my best favorite was the Ford fender 1/2 x 1/2 and the WR. Last 3 years I caught kokanee in LP with the dodger and rubber squid. But that didn't do well last couple trip at LP. I remembered that your post about the speed and the flashers the WR at trolling speed above 2 MPH. I'll try on my next fishing trip, not with the dodger for sure:).

Last Friday there were couple old fishermen showed me the big kok that he just netted. I asked him how deep that he fish. He said: leaded line 75' line out and they caught 7 fish. I haven't use the lead line long time ago but they did better with it on Friday :) As I watch his boat moving sure his trolling speed was faster than mine.

Talking about triple teaser, I have couple in my tackle box but haven't try them yet. Two year ago my uncle gave me his big Plano tackle box for kokanee when he had cancer. His tackle box is very organize and ton of lures, if he caught kok with some lures that hot then he bought whole bunch of them, there were many tripple teaser, kokanee king, kneedle fish...and ton of WR.

Tripleteaser
10-08-2017, 06:00 PM
Hi F-bomb are you still having luck with the long leaders in front of your wedding rings? I know you have had some teasing about them in the past but if it works don't knock it. How long are they again and did you use them long in front of the triple teaser also last week. Thank you for sharing your info and I enjoy reading your blogs. In my book you are the Ted True blood of the Kokanee blog site. You ought to write an article for Field and Stream.

F-Bomb
10-09-2017, 02:14 PM
Fish4koke....
I wonder what depth 75' with leaded line actually equals? With lure and speed variables it has to be pretty hit and miss.

I only run two down riggers on my boat and when we are fishing with more poles I usually throw on 1/4 ounce at a time until we get action. It's slow and painful and seems like production is far below the DR setups. Once about every four or five trips the non-down rigger setups will be active. Way back in the day I used to be a tester for Bottom Line Fish Finders and when Armstrong bought them out they brought along Cannon and I got in on some of that action as well. Hard to ever go back once you've operated with a good DR setup. Last year the fishing was so good you never needed more than two poles and two down rigger setups but this year they were harder to come by most of the time so we have put out the extra long line setups in an effort to improve the odds with shear numbers. On the days when things are really hopping I can't keep up with more than two setups plus I don't really care about actually "limiting". We used to also do a bit of line stacking with the DR but that just became a general PIA hassle. I'm there to fish and enjoy the day and want it to last like a fine cigar! A couple of these tasty critters per week is really plenty. That leads me to another little bit of comedy from our Friday trip. Pretty early in our day we had a really good bite and fight but when it got within eyesight there was no silver flash and I lamented. Once it was netted I instantly released the 22ish" trout. My Uncle was actually somewhat put out and his face was saying WTF! I had to explain to him that we consider those non-edible and that isn't really what we are here to get.

All summer long there was one small metal boat that had two older guys in it and they never left the mouth of robie and spring shores area. I saw them get plenty of action most days. I think they were leaded line experts!

I've tried a bunch of various triple teaser sizes and colors but pretty universally the red orange outside and white inside has been our number one color. We used to fish them no bait but with this berkley powder and spray on dw40. It created a goo that was horrible to get off of your boat but the fish loved it. Then I started putting a corn nub on the single hook and if you kept it small the action was still good and we still caught fish. Friday we used this 2 1/2 inch long thing that had a huge single hook. Corn didn't hurt this ones action! I still put things back quite a distance on my leaders from the swivel. Minimum 48" and I have also had great luck clear out to 60". It's kind of challenging to land the fish because they are way off still when you've run out of space with the pole and lure. It's kind of a practiced madness between fishing and netting on my boat. It looks like a disorganized cluster but there really is a technique and when the fisherman and the netter all perform properly we have a pretty high land rate. Good Lamiglas poles and treble hooks with barbs are also a contributing factor. The yelling and scrambling is all part of the fun!

Tripleteaser...Thank you for the very kind comments. I am glad you enjoy the posts and I have a lot of fun telling stories and comparing notes with people in this format. I'm no Ted Trueblood but I do understand and very much appreciate his perspectives and your compliment. I believe that a calm fall day on LP with friends and family is exactly what he was talking about concerning nature. A buddy of mine calls it "living well to be well". I'm really working at it!

crappieslayer
10-09-2017, 08:04 PM
Fished Lucky Peak this afternoon for 2 1/2 hrs. Caught my first trout in less than 3 minutes. Ended up catching 2 trout, 1 Chinook and missed or lost 3 other fish. Caught them on 3 different rigs but all were 8 to 12ft deep and my speed was 1.8 to 1.9. Stayed pretty close to the dam area.

fish4kok
10-10-2017, 01:32 AM
F-Bomb,

I have no answer for the depth of 75’ leaded line, I agree with you “with lure and speed variables it has to be pretty hit and miss.” Leaded line dyed with color, each color is 10 yards (30’) so 75’ long is two and half color. In mid ‘90 we fished at Dworshak reservoir, a fishing boat with couple old fishermen passed by us, old fisherman told me :”one and half oz. sinker and 2 color. After we follow his setup, we caught kokanee. Then we fished in Deadwood reservoir we always use 1.5 oz. banana sinker and start from one and half color (45') and later slowly release the line until we get action, often we caught fish in 2.5 color and seldom we fish more than 4.5 color. Until now I’m not sure how deep of the 2.5 color line + 1.5 oz. sinker. Some old friend told me “if you use the protractor measure the angle of the line then I’ll tell you how deep our lure is…” Yeah! Sure he can use trigonometry function for the depth solution but that not accuracy because “with lure and speed variables it has to be pretty hit and miss.” After we use the DR I really like it because I know what depth my lure at...

Thank you for the info. that how you use tripple teaser. Next trip I’ll take my uncle's tackle box and try the tripple teaser, needle fish, kokanee king etc…I’ll let you know the result when I change the setup and trolling speed. Hopefully my wife will stay up fishing rather than take nap on the boat...

Last year the fishing was so good and I fished until Nov. 30th. It’s good because LP is not very far from home so a day fishing on the boat was a bless. Other fun was listen to the talk show radio about the poll, the nominee, the debate, the racing between Mrs.Hillary and Mr. Trump to the WH. But most of all it was a good fishing last year at LP.

crappieslayer
10-10-2017, 01:30 PM
Fished Lucky Peak yesterday near the dam. Barely got my line in the water and caught a trout. Fished for two hours and ended up with 2 trout, 1 Chinook, and missed or lost 3 fish. All were caught between 8 and 10 ft at 1.8 to 1.9mph.

F-Bomb
10-10-2017, 06:58 PM
Has anyone taken an LP chinook home to the BBQ? We reduced that decent one from Friday and I ate him Saturday. VERY DISAPPOINTING! The meat was white, somewhat mushy, and bland. Nothing even close to the same amount of deliciousness as the blaze orange and firm meat of the kokanee that we also brought home. I had visions of the same stuff that we get at the coast with the sea run chinook but this was almost exactly like the plain jane planter rainbow trout. I wonder if that is because they are hatchery gene stock? Maybe this one being 20" was not quite mature and maybe it's a dietary thing? Anyway we have been catching quite a number of the baby chinook and had visions of the lake letting go of a bunch of them each year in the two foot range but if that is what you get for dinner no thank you. I'll stick with the kokanee!

SuperD
10-10-2017, 07:13 PM
It is in fact a dietary thing. Meat color not with standing, their protein source in fresh water is so much different that it doesn't make for good table fare.

KokaneeJoe
10-10-2017, 07:56 PM
Has anyone taken an LP chinook home to the BBQ? We reduced that decent one from Friday and I ate him Saturday. VERY DISAPPOINTING! The meat was white, somewhat mushy, and bland. Nothing even close to the same amount of deliciousness as the blaze orange and firm meat of the kokanee that we also brought home. I had visions of the same stuff that we get at the coast with the sea run chinook but this was almost exactly like the plain jane planter rainbow trout. I wonder if that is because they are hatchery gene stock? Maybe this one being 20" was not quite mature and maybe it's a dietary thing? Anyway we have been catching quite a number of the baby chinook and had visions of the lake letting go of a bunch of them each year in the two foot range but if that is what you get for dinner no thank you. I'll stick with the kokanee!

I kept a 24" one earlier this year and it was sub-par at best. Very bland. No flavor. Trout are better tasting.

F-Bomb
10-11-2017, 10:09 AM
Well that is disappointing information. Maybe they will be incredibly fun to catch once they all grow up but one will never make it back onto my BBQ unless it's mortally wounded. (yuck) I can already envision the argument when one of my buddies lands a good fish and I demand to release it! If you see someone swimming to the bank from a black pontoon you'll already know the circumstances and that the mutiny was put down.

KokaneeJoe
10-11-2017, 11:45 AM
The one big one I caught was a very impressive fighter but I don't think I will be targeting them. I like the delicious kokes.

kodiak1
10-11-2017, 02:37 PM
That's interesting. The 12 #er I caught out of Anderson was as good....maybe better.....than the Chinook we catch at Sekiu in the Straits. Different waters maybe?.. Mike

G3 longliner
10-11-2017, 06:15 PM
Fished Lucky Peak yesterday near the dam. Barely got my line in the water and caught a trout. Fished for two hours and ended up with 2 trout, 1 Chinook, and missed or lost 3 fish. All were caught between 8 and 10 ft at 1.8 to 1.9mph.
Maybe i can shed a little light. I commercial fished salmon in Alaska for 7 years - what i know is: the orange meat comes from the krill that they eat, thats why farmed salmon has to have dye put in food to get any color . also the rich flavor on Chinook ( we call Kings ) is the oil from the Herring, candlefish, and other creatures they eat. So landlocked chinooks are not going to have color or flavor that you would expect from the ocean . And by the way, it was the most rewarding seven years of my life

fish4kok
10-12-2017, 10:32 AM
Fished yesterday at LP from 11:30Am until 4:30PM and took home 3 fat 14" Kok. First time I fish with long leader and faster trolling speed and it worked. One long line pole with 1.1/4 oz. sinker + Mack's lure plastic flasher (red/silver) + Kokanee King (orange/white) + white corn and 56" leader. Most action on this pole. Had an other setup with green/silver flasher and orange WR that fish with DR from 10' to 15 depth and got few fish included 1 small chinook. We lost other 4 fish when it get close to the boat. It was hard to net the fish with long leader on 7'6" rod. Especially single hook on the lure that make the fish get off easy when it flipped on the air...
Thank F-Bomb for the info. With this setup the fish strikes very hard.

Wife had a good nap... Her pole that she setup as normal when we fish at LP. Fordfender + Kokabow with about 18" leader...She changed the lure few time and changing depth with DR, not a tap...

Water level drop about 95', portable boat dock wasn't on center of the ramp so only one side use-able. At 11:00 Am there were 3 boats on the reservoir that including mine.

There was a mallard swim toward our boat when we rigged up our fishing gear, we fed it some bread and when we start trolling it jumped on the step platform and had a free ride for half an hour.

F-Bomb
10-12-2017, 11:37 AM
Thank you all contributors. It's nice to be able to learn, inform, compare, and converse in a positive and entertaining media while we pass the time to our next fishing day!

Fish4koke...
Excellent! I'm really happy to hear that you tried that technique and that it had some positive results for you. That is really encouraging. I have been switching the stock single hook to a very slightly larger treble on my wedding ring spinner setups and that seems to improve the hooked to landed ratio. I also switched some of the blades to a larger version about late summer.
One I painted orange and white and it's been getting some strikes pretty much along with the stock hammered silver.

I also bit the bullet and switched from Fenwick 7.5ft everyday rods to some way too expensive Lamiglas and once again it seems like we are landing a larger proportion of our hook-ups.

I use two 801GH which is an 8ft on the down riggers and two 9.5fters on the outside long line setups. Lamiglas has a sale on the CG GH80 right now for $113 per stick. I paid considerably more for a slightly different make-up but I bet the results would be as positive.

G3 great info..Your comments and experience correlates with what I have heard and read. I bet you do miss the good ole' days of Alaska fishing! I love seafood and would eat salmon and crab everyday if I could afford it. Of course it all goes better in the trifecta with a good steak!

fish4kok
10-13-2017, 02:02 PM
F-Bomb
I often fish with the leader not more than 18" long on the spinner and ~ 12" leader with the squids after the dodger... We (Wife & I) often caught fish with our setup and slower trolling speed and enjoy the day on the lake. Somehow this year fishing at LP is getting more challenge...

I read your posts about the long leader and 2MPH+ trolling speed and many of your share information about fishing in LP. Stuffs that you used for your catching technicque that I also have in my tackle boxes so why don't I try? Now I have a better GPS echomap fishfinder that I can read the trolling speed and I can dial in. With in first 25 minutes I boated 1 kokanee and the 2nd took off with my Kokanee king single hook, the line broke right at the knot that tight to the lure. I replace same lure and that has more action so I didn't try the tripple teaser yet. First time I fish with long leader and I'm glad with the result. Thank you for the solution to use longer pole and tripple hook on the wr. I did tight some tandem single hook for the wr and I'm thinking to replace the single hook on the kokanee king, tripple teaser to the tripple hook. I don't know that will change the action of these lures?

Yesterday I bought couple more Macklure's flashers for my wife, one set with 2 blades, the other with 4 blades. Hopefully she will stay awake on our next fishing trip.

nepetbutler
10-24-2017, 12:07 AM
Lucky peak was slow so went to arrowrock and nailed many Kokes and trout. Orange hoochie and pink hoochie.Firecorn and maggots. Down 26'

hooknhunter
10-24-2017, 09:35 AM
How big were the kokes?

nepetbutler
10-25-2017, 09:23 PM
How big were the kokes?

14-15". Really good fighters.

tramos
10-25-2017, 09:53 PM
14-15". Really good fighters.

Any more details? How many kokes did you catch? Where and how fast were you going?

formulaben
10-26-2017, 03:32 PM
Went out yesterday on a friend's boat. We had issues with trolling speed since it was his first time out in the boat...so take this report with a grain of salt.

Anyway, we were too fast so we stopped for a while to jig. Caught a ~15" trout about 12 feet down with a Cabela's Jig-n-Spoon. My first time trying to jig for anything and came up with a nice fish. 2nd fish was a 16" trout caught on a longline flatfish while trolling fast. Both fish were caught South of Spring Shores in the narrows headed towards Gooseneck.

Overall a gorgeous day once we got around the corner from Turner's to Gooseneck bay and got out of the wind, but could have used more fish in the boat...

nepetbutler
10-26-2017, 06:22 PM
Any more details? How many kokes did you catch? Where and how fast were you going?

1.4 mph zigzagging. Down 26'. Orange squid. Pink squid. Anise pink Firecorn, maggots
Back 30' 10-3 pm. No wind. Soo many bites. Landed 3 koke 7 trout. Next day 5 Kokes 3 trout. Heading up Sunday.

Hoochie Bro
10-29-2017, 07:30 PM
Hey guys,
I am new to LP, but I've been reading these threads for a while and I figured I'd give it a go. I was the guy in the green kayak who trolled/jigged nearby the dam and that bay all day. That wind was impossible to row against early this morning, so I figured I would just really try to nail down that little area. I striked out today- thinking it was mostly a consistent depth issue, however, I did see some decent top action for trout today (Probably would have done better on the fly rod with a nymph/dry indicator...lol) Maybe I wasn't over the kokes and the close dodger was a bit too much for the trout?

Was using a UV Sling Blade with a pink hoochie 6 inches back, tipped with Natural Fire Corn. Tried everything from 15'-60', but really focused on the 15'-30' range- nothing!

Not too discouraged, I'll probably try to convince the lady to go "camping" with me and hit Arrow Rock next weekend.

I believe I saw F-Bomb pull out there today. I'm curious if anyone around the dam caught anything..? Saw about 4 boats and a thousand seagulls congregate over there a couple times.

F-Bomb
10-30-2017, 10:22 AM
Unfortunately it wasn't me that you saw at LP. I've been swamped for several weeks and have not been able to break away. My last trip was reported. Sadly it was one of the best of the year and a combo of this incredible fall weather, great fishing, and NO JET SKI and SURF BOATS makes for a perfect LP day. Such days are so rare that I have been itching to go up and repeat but no such luck. I do check in on this site regularly to see if anyone is having any action up there so that I can live vicariously.

A tip about LP and dealing with the wind....

There is an almost daily early am prevailing wind that rages down canyon (westerly) from Spring Shores towards the Dam. It is on sunny calm high pressure days. I'm guessing it has something to do with heat and pressure as the sun warms the area. It makes the dam area a mecca for sail and kite board riders and a PIA for early morning fishing. On calm early mornings that create these conditions you are miles ahead to drive up to the marina and fish the opening of Robie Creek along the bank under the tree farm and helicopter training station. This small area seems to be less affected and is the calmest good fishing area most mornings. As the sun goes up and the temperature warms up the entire lake calms and then it's wonderful everywhere.

F-Bomb
10-30-2017, 10:56 AM
You mentioned "being over the kokes". I bet not and as a matter of fact I know not. For some strange reason the kokes at LP can be caught right up to the surface. Obviously there are a bunch of other factors in technique but 100% for sure people should be fishing LP much more shallow than the traditional kokanee fishing depths. On some days If I stand up on the seat of my pontoon the flasher is visible paddling along back there just below the surface. That is with the DR ball set at 5ft-8ft but with the paper flasher system the lure is slightly above the DR setting. You do need to be quite a bit further back from the boat fishing this shallow but it absolutely works at LP on some days.

I also guess that these fish are holding deeper but come up when they are attracted to the lure. Don't really know the exact particulars but you can deduct this all from the fact that we catch a consistent amount of kokanee fishing very shallow at LP.

I also don't know about "fire corn". I know lots of guys swear by it and I'm sure it works for them but.....
What I do know is that LP kokes like the following mixture. White shoepeg corn soaked with the oil squeezed from a can of tuna fish (vegetable oil version). Then when we get to the lake we add a very generous amount of Mike's Blue Herring oil (I found it at Walmart) and a little bit of Lucky Peak water. This bait combo 100% works up there and has now without fail for two seasons. I've concocted a bunch of misc combos of stuff including dying the corn bright colors, adding bloody tuna juice, bloody tuna powder, ect ect and none of them seemed to consistently produce action like the previously mentioned bait. Weirdly we got more action when I added the lake water. I read about that on the net and it ended up being real. The internet expert warned against using tap water.

nepetbutler
10-30-2017, 04:56 PM
Hey guys,
I am new to LP, but I've been reading these threads for a while and I figured I'd give it a go. I was the guy in the green kayak who trolled/jigged nearby the dam and that bay all day. That wind was impossible to row against early this morning, so I figured I would just really try to nail down that little area. I striked out today- thinking it was mostly a consistent depth issue, however, I did see some decent top action for trout today (Probably would have done better on the fly rod with a nymph/dry indicator...lol) Maybe I wasn't over the kokes and the close dodger was a bit too much for the trout?

Was using a UV Sling Blade with a pink hoochie 6 inches back, tipped with Natural Fire Corn. Tried everything from 15'-60', but really focused on the 15'-30' range- nothing!

Not too discouraged, I'll probably try to convince the lady to go "camping" with me and hit Arrow Rock next weekend.

I believe I saw F-Bomb pull out there today. I'm curious if anyone around the dam caught anything..? Saw about 4 boats and a thousand seagulls congregate over there a couple times.
No wind at arrowrock. More water. All Kokess got off. Landed 13 trout. Great shirtless day trolling down 24 feet . Pink hoochie/ anise krill soaked pink Firecorn

formulaben
10-30-2017, 05:04 PM
No wind at arrowrock. More water. All Kokess got off. Landed 13 trout. Great shirtless day trolling down 24 feet . Pink hoochie/ anise krill soaked pink Firecorn

How many Kokes did you hook?

Hoochie Bro
10-30-2017, 05:52 PM
You mentioned "being over the kokes". I bet not and as a matter of fact I know not. For some strange reason the kokes at LP can be caught right up to the surface. Obviously there are a bunch of other factors in technique but 100% for sure people should be fishing LP much more shallow than the traditional kokanee fishing depths. On some days If I stand up on the seat of my pontoon the flasher is visible paddling along back there just below the surface. That is with the DR ball set at 5ft-8ft but with the paper flasher system the lure is slightly above the DR setting. You do need to be quite a bit further back from the boat fishing this shallow but it absolutely works at LP on some days.

I also guess that these fish are holding deeper but come up when they are attracted to the lure. Don't really know the exact particulars but you can deduct this all from the fact that we catch a consistent amount of kokanee fishing very shallow at LP.

I also don't know about "fire corn". I know lots of guys swear by it and I'm sure it works for them but.....
What I do know is that LP kokes like the following mixture. White shoepeg corn soaked with the oil squeezed from a can of tuna fish (vegetable oil version). Then when we get to the lake we add a very generous amount of Mike's Blue Herring oil (I found it at Walmart) and a little bit of Lucky Peak water. This bait combo 100% works up there and has now without fail for two seasons. I've concocted a bunch of misc combos of stuff including dying the corn bright colors, adding bloody tuna juice, bloody tuna powder, ect ect and none of them seemed to consistently produce action like the previously mentioned bait. Weirdly we got more action when I added the lake water. I read about that on the net and it ended up being real. The internet expert warned against using tap water.


F-Bomb, I really appreciate all the advice and will take your bait setup into account next time!
I too have been living vicariously through all the success everyone on this forum has had, so I'll be trying to make it up when possible.

As for the kokes near the top- maybe the slow current mixes the water and causes upwelling when it comes into contact with the canyon walls- allowing for cold top water and kokanee at the surface (purely a guess)

The "Firecorn" is one of those branded bottles of shoepeg corn, marinaded in some "secret" recipe with a fancy label on it- after your bit, I think I'll switch to your proven method.

It is also encouraging to hear about Arrow Rock as well - New in town so I'll have to check that out too.

Hoochie Bro
10-30-2017, 08:08 PM
No wind at arrowrock. More water. All Kokess got off. Landed 13 trout. Great shirtless day trolling down 24 feet . Pink hoochie/ anise krill soaked pink Firecorn

Good to hear! How big were the trout on average? All we had in Arizona were sickly 8 inch stockers for the most part 101thumbsdown101

nepetbutler
10-31-2017, 12:24 PM
trout and kokes

nepetbutler
10-31-2017, 12:37 PM
F-Bomb, I really appreciate all the advice and will take your bait setup into account next time!
I too have been living vicariously through all the success everyone on this forum has had, so I'll be trying to make it up when possible.

As for the kokes near the top- maybe the slow current mixes the water and causes upwelling when it comes into contact with the canyon walls- allowing for cold top water and kokanee at the surface (purely a guess)

The "Firecorn" is one of those branded bottles of shoepeg corn, marinaded in some "secret" recipe with a fancy label on it- after your bit, I think I'll switch to your proven method.

It is also encouraging to hear about Arrow Rock as well - New in town so I'll have to check that out too.
i only use pink firecorn soaked in procure anise krill oil. make sure your woman is gone and nuke the mixture for 15 secs. carry nonscented wet wipes to keep the oil off your lamiglass rod and okuma cold water reels. making sum now while my lady is working. heading to lp dam at noon

kodiak1
10-31-2017, 10:18 PM
Nice catch on Tuesday, Nepetbutler! Were you at Arrowrock again or Lucky Peak? I'm heading up Thursday weather permitting. Mike

nepetbutler
11-01-2017, 09:55 AM
Arrowrock .got those from 10-3

Pauli
11-13-2017, 05:01 PM
Anyone been up to LP lately? I'm wondering if the Turner ramp is still in the water. The last time I was up there, a few weeks ago, the ramp was still in the water....but the trailer backed off the end of the concrete into the abyss. Apparently the Arrowrock road is really bad....so I thought LP might be in order.

Pauli

hooknhunter
11-14-2017, 11:36 AM
Anyone been up to LP lately? I'm wondering if the Turner ramp is still in the water. The last time I was up there, a few weeks ago, the ramp was still in the water....but the trailer backed off the end of the concrete into the abyss. Apparently the Arrowrock road is really bad....so I thought LP might be in order.

Pauli

Pauli,

Do you ever go to Anderson? Did okay there in the last few weeks. You might find it worth the extra driving.

Pauli
11-14-2017, 04:24 PM
Pauli,

Do you ever go to Anderson? Did okay there in the last few weeks. You might find it worth the extra driving.

Yes...we have been to Anderson a few times this season. We did pretty well... I'm just not into that long drive. Now, since the days are shorter, I would want to leave the house even earlier in the morning. Either of the 3 reservoirs seems to have me driving through Boise during commuting hours. 101thumbsdown101101thumbsdown101101thumbsdown101 After a day of fishing....that's a drag.

Pauli

Trailbob
11-15-2017, 12:00 AM
Anyone been up to LP lately? I'm wondering if the Turner ramp is still in the water. The last time I was up there, a few weeks ago, the ramp was still in the water....but the trailer backed off the end of the concrete into the abyss. Apparently the Arrowrock road is really bad....so I thought LP might be in order.

Pauli

I went to LP on Sunday afternoon and launched at Turner. The ramp was still in the water and I didn't have any issues. Took my 5 year old grandson, so it was a quick trip. Mainly targeting trout near the dam, but no bites. Another fisherman said most boats were fishing further up the lake.

Pauli
11-15-2017, 01:46 AM
I went to LP on Sunday afternoon and launched at Turner. The ramp was still in the water and I didn't have any issues. Took my 5 year old grandson, so it was a quick trip. Mainly targeting trout near the dam, but no bites. Another fisherman said most boats were fishing further up the lake.

Thank You for the update.

Pauli

Pauli
11-27-2017, 10:44 PM
Hoping to make it to either Lucky Peak or Arrowrock on Wednesday. Looks like the wind should cooperate. Any creel reports out there??? How about the road conditions going to Arrowrock?

Oh.... if you didn't know about the weather station at Barclay Bay, here is the link to it. It's part of the Weather Underground network. I think the Residents there above the Barclay launch keep the station operational. I find the 10 day outlook pretty good.....The real-time observations are also a great tool.

https://www.wunderground.com/weather/us/id/boise/KIDBOISE49?mr=1

Pauli

Physion
11-27-2017, 11:56 PM
Hi, Pauli,

I was told by an HP employee that a group of HP windsurfers maintain the Barclay Bay weather site. I check it whenever I am planning a trip to LP. It's a great site.

For your creel question, I fished Wednesday before Thanksgiving and got 1 kokanee and a 16 inch rainbow in Gooseneck. I caught both right near the surface. I didn't fish the area close to the dam because of the wind. I got cold and quit early.

Physion

Pauli
11-28-2017, 03:22 AM
Thanks Physion,

I think the wife and I will head out to the reservoir on Wednesday.....but still undecided if it is going to be Arrowrock or Lucky Peak. Suppose we could drive to the Arrowrock dam and check out how bumpy the road is. Seems like the fishing has been better up there lately.... at least for me.

Pauli

Oldfishnfart
11-28-2017, 02:56 PM
We went to Arrowrock on Black Friday. We arrived at 8:30
2 of us fishing had 10 in the boat by 11:30 and then took 2 hrs for the last 2. Loaded the boat at 1:30.
Fished 1 long one with 5/8 oz and three on riggers at 10-25' most fish caught at 20' although several hooked on the long line.
Gold dodgers w hot pink hoochie was top producer all fish were caught with some pink combo. Tried other colors on my stack rod and pink was the color. We use anise and garlic scented corn.
All fish were healthy 13-16".
The road was a lot better than it was on my last trip over 2 weeks ago. It is rough in spots but I have seen it a lot worse. Good Luck!

fish4kok
11-29-2017, 09:15 AM
We went to Arrowrock on Black Friday. We arrived at 8:30
2 of us fishing had 10 in the boat by 11:30 and then took 2 hrs for the last 2. Loaded the boat at 1:30.
Fished 1 long one with 5/8 oz and three on riggers at 10-25' most fish caught at 20' although several hooked on the long line.
Gold dodgers w hot pink hoochie was top producer all fish were caught with some pink combo. Tried other colors on my stack rod and pink was the color. We use anise and garlic scented corn.
All fish were healthy 13-16".
The road was a lot better than it was on my last trip over 2 weeks ago. It is rough in spots but I have seen it a lot worse. Good Luck!

Thanks Oldfishnfart for fishing info. at Arrowrock. Glad that you guys did very well on Black Friday. My wife and I will heading there today.

fish4kok
01-01-2018, 07:05 PM
https://www.kokaneefishingforum.com/fishing-forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9300&d=1514846480

I drove up to Spring shore Marina to watch people plunged in to cold water for the Polar Bear Day. The water in the reservoir very much open except the area below the bridge of Robie creek. I saw only one fishing boat trolling by the dam area. There wasn't a portable dock at Turner Gulch boat ramp. Beautiful sun shine today, hopefully those 2 guys catch some fish.
Good luck for fishing in LP 2018.