Thanks for the feed back. Since I wrote I saw a place at Hitt and First with a sign that says "ethanol free gas" I have not stopped in yet to check it out but when I do I'll let you know for sure. I found out today that you can get a anual pass for Ririe now. They are not putting a limit on how many sold. May 1 to Oct 31 is $50 for us older folks and $60 for you young ones. I was going to get it today but they want cash. I like being warm more than I like fishing so no sitting on the Ice for me. I do plan on trying to spend a lot more time at Ririe next year, mostly early until the skiers get there and then home for some yard work and Kokanee smoking. When do you get to retire?