Curing Downrigger-Mortise

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Most of us have been there.The gear is set, you head toward the sweet spot,and nothing ,for hours nothing.You try a few old tricks and it still ain't working.Your ready to strike pose has become a stiff groggy slouch,Downrigger-Mortise.What are your tricks to get the rods jumping?
 
Where Kokes are concerned, if I've tried all my hot spots and thrown the tackle box at them, I switch species go put my trout stuff out. I'm out to catch some fish and enjoy myself so I don't get fixated with Kokes or die mentality.
 
#1 - Stacking
#2 - Run several different baits (That's both lure & scent change-ups)
#3 - Modify your speed (fluctuate your speed)
#4 - Zig zag or circle the boat to create different lure speed/action
#5 - Watch the fish finder very closely for thermocline or plankton beds

You seldom catch the fish you mark on the finder but it will help to find a starting point for both area and depth. Run your lures/dodgers/flashers at about 5' to check the action before sending them down to the target depth. Always run a surface-10' set-up behind the boat and you will be suprised how many koke hits you'll get, these fish will never be marked on the finder. Don't be shay about letting out a LONG setback either.

There's ALL my tricks! If none of these work for you then do what SuperD does. One last thing to mention, Just maybe your "sweet spot" isn't so sweet after all? Try a different part of the lake. Fish DO swim around!
 
Two other things I would use. First, I'm not afraid to change my approach if I'm not doing any good with how I'm fishing. I like to jig so that is usually where I will begin but it goes either way. No matter where I start, I will try whatever it takes to get myself into fish if I can. If surface jigging doesn't work, then I'll try trolling. And if trolling doesn't work then I'll try verticle jigging. If verticle jigging doesn't work then I'll try bait, first tipped on the jig and then without the jig if that didn't work. Of course I'm still yet to see bait work when tipped on a jig. I do not know why but I always do better when I leave the bait to all the other fishermen and just stick with plain hardware. With all of that said I must point out that I won't change up too quickly or I may find that I'm changing just ahead of the fish.

The second thing is something I'm usually doing from the time I hit the water until I leave. I watch other fishermen on the water. If I see someone doing something that seems to be working I'll try and watch and learn something. If there is one thing that the fish have taught me over the years it's that I don't know it all. Somedays, I just have to hang my head in shame at not figuring it out all by my lonesome and accept the fact that somebody else got it right first. And yes, I say that with sarcasm. I've never been too proud to learn what others can teach me, and sometimes it really helps to make the trip. In return, I hold no secrets from anyone asking what I am using. When I'm fortunate enough to get into them well and someone else isn't, I would consider it almost criminal not to share some of that joy. That's one of the great things about these prolific little fish, there's plenty of them to let the fun go around to all.
 
There are days when just a color change will do it or a change in depth ...sometimes the one's you see on the fishfinder have lock jaw, but by going to the top or bottom of the pack you'll be into the biter's. Also, as already mentioned, try changing your speed and do plenty of turns. Try ball trolls with a short set-back. If that doesn't produce, shed the trolls and get farther in back of the boat. Troll perpendicular to the sun. I've also found like skookum9 mentioned when trolling just isn't doing it, switch to jigging. I first go after the deep one's right off the bottom while anchored up. If they aren't interested, I then go out in the middle and target suspended kokes while doing a slow drift. From my experiance most slow days can be turned around just by switching between these methods.
 
Sounds like I'm on the same page with you guys on some tricks ,but I've got to take up jigging.One other thing that gets a hit ever so often is to yo-yo the DR weight up and down 5 or 6'. I've got manual Penns so usually try it when I mark fish that won't hit.Do most or all electric DRs have a feature to cycle automatically?
 
I'm not aware of this feature (automatic cycling) on my Scotty electrics but I run far too long a setback for it to have any affect on the lure package I'm presenting.

I think we all need to keep things in perspective here. I do this fishing thing for fun and relaxation. I'm not being filmed for the next episode of The Deadliest Catch.
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Experimenting around to entice a bite is whats it all about. Early in our fishing careers when we weren't catching fish or having alot of slow days, we did feel the 'shame' when walking by the cleaning stations seeing others who have had a banner day. Sometimes it wasn't easy talking to these folks because they didn't want give away any secrets or they would sling BS at you on what they used to keep you off the trail of success. Back in the day it was about cut through the chase and give me some idea. And then of coarse there was the ones that seemed to steer you in the right direction. Those are the rare to find guys sometimes. So, what it boils down to now is built up experience on how well you've come equipped, downriggers, GPS, a good fishfinder, even radio fishing sometimes and 2-3 tackle bags out of 5-6 bags you already have full of hardware. I like having someone on board with me so there can be 2 of us throwing things out there to entice the bite. A couple of cold beers, good company and stay relaxed and when the bite hits, let the anxiety attacks begin. Oh yes, the learning process never ends.
 
Bduck says, "the learning process never ends." And so true it is. There's just something humbling about being outsmarted by a creature with a brain smaller than a pea. A fish cannot read or write, cannot speak but if her could, could not say his abc's or count his 123's. I cannot help but think that every time we "stratagize" to fool these fish, that we are not over-thinking them. Just a passing thought.
 
Sounds like I'm on the same page with you guys on some tricks ,but I've got to take up jigging.One other thing that gets a hit ever so often is to yo-yo the DR weight up and down 5 or 6'. I've got manual Penns so usually try it when I mark fish that won't hit.Do most or all electric DRs have a feature to cycle automatically?

My Cannon Digitroll IV's do. thumbsup
 
so i'm the only one who sets the weights deep, cuts behind others who are doing well, in the chance of snagging and breaking off their "successful" gear around the cables.thumbsup

ok, maybe just a couple ice cold beers to relax and realize im not at work does the trick as well! after all, its fishing....not catching right?
 
so i'm the only one who sets the weights deep, cuts behind others who are doing well, in the chance of snagging and breaking off their "successful" gear around the cables.thumbsup

ok, maybe just a couple ice cold beers to relax and realize im not at work does the trick as well! after all, its fishing....not catching right?

I generally only run 10 to 15' setbacks. You'd have to be mighty close. tongue2
 
Now you guys are starting to sound like some of my more "competitive" friends. Fortunately, I know you guys are just kidding. Unfortunately, some of my friends would not be above doing just about that. Of course, they would only do it to someone they knew and were friends with. :)
 
the best excuse is "oh sorry guys, this is a new boat and im not quite used to how she handles. boats, gotta love em. ah ha ha ha. have a good day."

in and out, works everytime.

just kidding. like i said, i just turn to the booze...then im happy as a clam.
 

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