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great fellas a great koke in ct where i fish mostly now is 16in last year i broke my all time record 17 1/2in but a typical avg is 14in up from 12 in 1980s-mid90 we had a freak year class of 2005 but i think that was a combination of things forage plus 3 years earlier ct had to get fertilized eggs from colorado blue mesa cause of poor returns from our honey hole anyway my buddies landed a few over the 20in mark i would love to had fished the lake that year but i still get excited at any koke they are all good