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sawhorseray

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Having fished FG twice last summer we're already booked for two nine day trips next June and July at Buckboard. Is it possible to purchase fishing licenses and the needed boat tags online in advance, or does it have to be done at the Ace Hardware in Green River?. Pautskez fire corn, bloody tuna and kokanee killer scent, red and orange hoochies, we will slay them once again. Only four more months, can't wait! RAY
 
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As long as you stay on the Wyoming side, you can do it all online through Wyoming Fish & Game website.
 
Thanks for that SuperD! We stay at Buckboard CG and never get close to crossing the line except to drive down to Lucerne in the truck. There's really not a whole lot of time to waste once we get there in order to be ready to fish the next morning. Once camp is set and the boat gets a berth it's a real vacation. RAY
 
Purchase an AIS Decal for boat
Motorized watercraft registered in any other state = $30 AIS decal
https://wgfd.wyo.gov/elso/elsoaiswelcome.aspx

Wyoming Game & Fish DepartmentOnline Electronic Licensing System

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/elso/ELSOWelcome2.aspx


If you don't fish Utah side this should be all you need

you can check the cost of Utah License, then you would need a $10.00 reciprocal stamps for the WY. side you can buy this on the WY web site some times it is hard to find make sure you don't pay over $10.


Utah Hunting & Fishing Licenses


https://secure.utah.gov/hflo/main/serv2/index.html?server=serv2


Parking permit

$5 per day, $12 per week, or $35 per year (good for one calendar year (This may have changed)
I think you need to buy this from the
U. S. forest Service

If you have a National Parks Senior Pass it is free.
 
liketrolling said:
Purchase an AIS Decal for boat
Motorized watercraft registered in any other state = $30 AIS decal
https://wgfd.wyo.gov/elso/elsoaiswelcome.aspx

Wyoming Game & Fish DepartmentOnline Electronic Licensing System

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/elso/ELSOWelcome2.aspx


If you don't fish Utah side this should be all you need

you can check the cost of Utah License, then you would need a $10.00 reciprocal stamps for the WY. side you can buy this on the WY web site some times it is hard to find make sure you don't pay over $10.


Utah Hunting & Fishing Licenses


https://secure.utah.gov/hflo/main/serv2/index.html?server=serv2


Parking permit

$5 per day, $12 per week, or $35 per year (good for one calendar year (This may have changed)
I think you need to buy this from the
U. S. forest Service

If you have a National Parks Senior Pass it is free.
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Thanks for those links liketrolling, and the reminder about the AIS stamp. I've got the senior pass, gets me half price at the campgrounds too. Last year on our first trip the lady told my wife over the phone they sold fishing licenses. When we got there she said the computer was down, couldn't do it, we had to drive right back to Green River to score. RAY
 
Licenses and conservation stamps printed out and in the glove compartment of the boat. AIS sticker came in the mail and installed on starboard side. Ready to rock! RAY
 
sawhorseray said:
Having fished FG twice last summer we're already booked for two nine day trips next June and July at Buckboard. Is it possible to purchase fishing licenses and the needed boat tags online in advance, or does it have to be done at the Ace Hardware in Green River? I'll be bringing the pressure cooker again to can the mornings catch daily, only way to stay legal, and the stuff tastes great. Pautskez fire corn, bloody tuna and kokanee killer scent, red and orange hoochies, we will slay them once again. Only four more months, can't wait! RAY
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i really don't care what you do personally with your fish but please don't misinform people of what you can catch and keep at flaming gorge , i doesn't matter what form the salmon are in cooked ,raw, canned etc.they still count towards your possession limit. meaning you can not possess more than 1 limit of fish weather they are canned or not. you must consume the them before you can keep more . here is a cut and paste from the wyoming proclamation. once again i'm not slamming you but this is what's legal from what i read.
Possession Limit
means the maximum number of game fish that may legally be
in possession at any time and in any form. Game fish in transit
or storage, including home or domicile, shall be considered in
possession. Possession limits apply regardless of how many days
an angler has fished
 
sawhorseray said:
Having fished FG twice last summer we're already booked for two nine day trips next June and July at Buckboard. Is it possible to purchase fishing licenses and the needed boat tags online in advance, or does it have to be done at the Ace Hardware in Green River? I'll be bringing the pressure cooker again to can the mornings catch daily, only way to stay legal, and the stuff tastes great. Pautskez fire corn, bloody tuna and kokanee killer scent, red and orange hoochies, we will slay them once again. Only four more months, can't wait! RAY
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I have to agree with Mtncat, You can only have three kokes in possession whether there in bottles, frozen, fresh. whatever. if you eat those three kokes each day, or give them away, then you can go out and catch three more kokes. Im not trying to rain on your parade, but thats the law the way i read and understand it.. I do also know that Wyo Game and fish watch these forums also.
 
Kokaholic said:
I have to agree with Mtncat, You can only have three kokes in possession whether there in bottles, frozen, fresh. whatever. if you eat those three kokes each day, or give them away, then you can go out and catch three more kokes. Im not trying to rain on your parade, but thats the law the way i read and understand it.. I do also know that Wyo Game and fish watch these forums also.
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I'm not sure which fishing website this was posted on, but it was pointed out last year that in Wyoming, if you pressure can (bottle if you prefer) your fish in the field, they are no longer considered as part of your in-the-field possession limit. After seeing that post, I contacted the Utah DWR and asked if the same was true in Utah. It definitely is NOT true in Utah. They will be part of your in-the-field possession limit until you reach your permanent place of residence (your home). If you have a vacation residence (cabin/trailer/etc.) somewhere in Utah, that does not qualify as your home for possession limit removal. But in Wyoming, their Fish & Game told somebody (in either a letter or email) that canning the fish removed them from your in-the-field possession limit. I don't have the time to research it right now, but I remember the conversation clearly.
 
i really think they should allow people to keep and trans port a 2 day limit of fish due to the remoteness of flaming gorge , if they did that you wouldn't have to play games with the limits. that would allow you to keep 6 nice kokes each and 16 lake trout which are under rated as tablefair / that should be enough fish for anyone to eat .
 
the limit for kokanee is 3 fish in Utah or wy and you can only tranport one limit from the gorge per trip , no matter how many days you fish
 
oneanddone said:
the limit for kokanee is 3 fish in Utah or wy and you can only tranport one limit from the gorge per trip , no matter how many days you fish
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i know i was only saying that is what i would like them to do , it was an example of what you could keep if they would let you keep 2 possession limits 2x 3 kokes a 2x8 lake trout
 
mtncat1 said:
i really don't care what you do personally with your fish but please don't misinform people of what you can catch and keep at flaming gorge , i doesn't matter what form the salmon are in cooked ,raw, canned etc.they still count towards your possession limit. meaning you can not possess more than 1 limit of fish weather they are canned or not. you must consume the them before you can keep more . here is a cut and paste from the wyoming proclamation. once again i'm not slamming you but this is what's legal from what i read.
Possession Limit
means the maximum number of game fish that may legally be
in possession at any time and in any form. Game fish in transit
or storage, including home or domicile, shall be considered in
possession. Possession limits apply regardless of how many days
an angler has fished
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I'm not misinforming anyone! If you bothered to contact the proper authorities in a quest to be informed, as I did, then you'd know better. RAY
 
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I knew I'd seen that last year

sawhorseray said:
I'm not misinforming anyone! If you bothered to contact the proper authorities in a quest to be informed, as I did, then you'd know better. Below is the complete email interaction between myself and Mark Smith, Assistant Fisheries Management Coordinator, Wyoming Game and Fish Department. I keep a copy in the glove compartment of my boat and also my truck. You may want to copy and print this to have on hand yourself. It certainly seemed to work in my favor last year when we were boarded by Wyoming F&G and asked what we were doing with our kokes. Your welcome. RAY
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Thanks Ray. You just affirmed that I haven't lost my memory after all. thumbsup

I will definitely print out that information from Mr. Smith and save it for further reference. And as for the Utah side of the lake, I called DWR last year and told them what you had found and asked if it applied in Utah. Emphatically, NO, it does not. The only time they are removed from your possession in the field is if you donate them to somebody else or get them to your permanent place of residence which will never be your RV or vacation cabin. Also, if you are camped in Wyoming, then don't ever take any of the canned fish with you to Utah (say Buckboard to Manila). As soon as you catch a fish on the Utah side you would be in violation of the Utah possession law if you had canned fish in your boat or tow vehicle.

And just for clarification, Wyoming has this in their Regulations brochure:
DISCLAIMER This booklet is a condensed summary of Chapter 46 and many other applicable wildlife laws and other important information. This summary is in no way intended to alter content or statutory intent of those laws. If you have any questions regarding the precise language, you can view a copy of the Wyoming Game and Fish Department Statutes (Title 23) online*. Official Wyoming Game and Fish Commission Regulations are available from any Game and Fish Department offi ce and can be viewed online at wgfd.wyo.gov/regulations.
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And Utah has this in their Guidebook:
A closer look at the rules This guidebook summarizes Utah’s fishing laws and rules. Although it is a convenient quick-reference document for Utah fishing regulations, it is not an all encompassing resource. For an in-depth look at Utah’s fishing laws and rules, visit wildlife.utah.gov/rules. You can use the references in this guidebook—such as Utah Administrative Rule R657-13-6 and Utah Code § 23-20-3—to search the Division’s website for the detailed statute or rule that underpins the guidebook summary. If you have questions about a particular rule, call or visit the nearest Division office.
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The published documents from both states are summaries and are not all inclusive and they do not cover all aspects of the law. As Ray found out, canning fish in Wyoming removes them from his in-field possession restriction. But that is NOT in the published document. And as both documents suggest, if in doubt, call DWR and discuss it with them.

Take care all y'all and may you have a great kokanee year in 2017. 101cheers101
 
good to know and best of luck to you. but i definitely wouldn't do it there are plenty of fish to keep from the gorge that you don't have to skirt the laws to keep . but them again i fish for pleasure not to save me a trip to the grocery store but that's me .
 
mtncat1 said:
good to know and best of luck to you. but i definitely wouldn't do it there are plenty of fish to keep from the gorge that you don't have to skirt the laws to keep . but them again i fish for pleasure not to save me a trip to the grocery store but that's me .
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You might feel a little different if it took you a couple of days to get to the gorge rather than a few hours drive from home. Say you were camped there and caught a limit of kokes the first day. You could eat one for dinner, and then when you went fishing the second day your limit would be one. When camped there, there aren't " plenty of fish to keep from the gorge", there's just three, and smoked and frozen count. Knowing the law isn't skirting the law. You can see plenty of folks skirting the law while running smokers. Just sayin'. RAY
 
This thread might be headed for a hijack but I too would like to see a change in the limit regulations. More fish would be saved if they increased take limits and outlawed catch and release.
 
SuperD said:
More fish (kokanee) would be saved if they . . . outlawed catch and release (of kokanee).
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Kokanee have one of the WORST (if not THE worst) survival rates of any fish caught and released. I always change tackle and tactics after my daily limit of kokanee are in the boat. I will occasionally still hook a kokanee, but it is never intentionally nor intended. I agree 100% that it should be made illegal to intentionally do so for kokanee. Apologies to the OP for the side track.
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