Hi Ron, good information .I need to read up on Rainbows and kokes again. Man I have struggled this year, no kokes and very few trout. I'm even getting tired of blaming the weather and time of year. My brother-in -law Mike and me went to Cedar Cliff Saturday and caught a mixed bag 3 rainbows,2 walleye,3 bream,and 2 largemouth. No much size wise and caught most the last hour we fished. Are you still in NC, the leaves are probably going to be at their peak in the Asheville area pretty soon. Take care Mark