Bait Sense?

[okanogan sagerat]

Is there any official proof that Fire Corn or any other scented bait works better than good old shoepeg white corn for catching kokes? I have caught them on crawlers, eggs, and corn, so shrimp scents makes no sense to me. Any opinions?

 

[ImHooked]

Bait

I am not aware of anything actually official only what I have read. STS has had some interesting articles on the various bates. They claimed increased bite rates with the new bates and scents. I have used some of the new stuff and have had success but I find myself gravitating back to the white corn. I always seem to have a can of it stashed somewhere. I do usually add a little scent to it but its mostly to firm it up and perhaps hide some of my scent.

Thats my 2cents

 

[dubob]

Is there any official proof that Fire Corn or any other scented bait works better than good old shoepeg white corn for catching kokes? I have caught them on crawlers, eggs, and corn, so shrimp scents makes no sense to me. Any opinions?

We can't use real corn for bait in Utah.

Utah Admin. Rule R657-13-12 - Several rules pertain to the use of bait in Utah: Use or possession of corn, hominy or live baitfish while fishing is unlawful.

The Fire Corn scent is krill, not shrimp, according to the Pautzke web site. Krill are a smallish ocean crustacean that belongs to the family of animals called zooplankton. And if memory serves me right, zooplankton is a preferred food source of kokanee. So it WOULD then make sense that a scent from that family of animals would be attractive to the kokanee. 2cents

 

[Kokonuts]

I am sold on scents, I use them a lot! I put it on the swivels, snaps, and the bait that I am using. I really think it takes away any Human Scent, if it adds to the attraction I really dont know.

I have Not Used White Corn this year only the Pink Berkley Maggots. It comes with some type of scent in the bottle and all I know about it is that it is really working at Merwin right now. I may go back to corn if it changes later in the year.

KOKONUTS... thumbsup

 

[SilverBullets]

The only reason I carry Pautzke's Fire Corn is for emergency use only in case I ever forget to bring my homemade scented corn...luckily I haven't had to use it yet.
I normally make up 3 or 4 different batches of scented corn every couple weeks and some of the batches are always dyed pink. After years of doing this I've come to the conclusion that some days it doesn't matter which scent is used. I've gone between different scents to get the bite going, but it seems the majority of the time switching between the non dyed to dyed corn has better results.
I've used probably around 20 different corn scent con-cations useing Pro-Cure oils and some weird one's like vanilla extract, molasses, and tuna fish oil. From what I've seen they all work, but I really think that the gel scent application on the lure is more important due to the gel staying on alot longer than the oil on the corn.

 

[smokin' Kokes]

tie a small section of fishing yarn on above one of the hooks.
works well as a scent reservoir, the oils and gells soak into the yarn.
comes in all the good koke colors

i like to slide the hoochie down over some yarn tied on.

let it hang out the back of the hook a little. the yarn strands catch in the kokes teeth when they make that hard slashing hit and turn. pulls the hooks into the mouth and fish head.
ends in more hook ups.

sometimes i just fish the yarn on the normal double hook koke set up with scent and some shoepeg.

 

[Mark McWillis]

tie a small section of fishing yarn on above one of the hooks.
works well as a scent reservoir, the oils and gells soak into the yarn.
comes in all the good koke colors

i like to slide the hoochie down over some yarn tied on.

let it hang out the back of the hook a little. the yarn strands catch in the kokes teeth when they make that hard slashing hit and turn. pulls the hooks into the mouth and fish head.
ends in more hook ups.

sometimes i just fish the yarn on the normal double hook koke set up with scent and some shoepeg.

That's a GREAT idea....THANKS!101goodpost101

 

[onlychild]

this came up a while back (snelled hooks)I tie an egg loop knot on my hooks for this very reason it makes it real easy to either add or remove yarn

 

[smokin' Kokes]

i learned to tie the egg loop years ago and use it to tie my koke rigs up along with most other hook setups.
give great hook position control on the double and triple hook setups.

just too lazy and in a hurry out on the lake to put the reading glasses on to see the egg loop to tie yarn thru.

guess i could yarn some up in the winter when i'm tying for the new season.

i like to do contrasting colors ie pink hoochie/white yarn, chartreuse hoochie/pink yarn

i look for the fuzziest yarn available, popular steelhead lure component.
i dose it up heavily with scent while it's still dry, becomes almost permanently soaked in the oily gells even when dragged for hours

 

[kokaneeking]

Yarn tip is a great idea. I will be trying this for sure!

 

[asautt]

I almost always tie a bit of yarn behind any Apex that I use. Have used the Apex with scented yarn to catch Kokes, cut throat, Coho, Pinks. Yarn is good!thumbsup

Alan

 

[DLM]

tie a small section of fishing yarn on above one of the hooks.
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Okay, this has got my attention and my imagination is running wild. During lunch I found that the tackle shop has several different sizes of yarn, some as small as a pencil led, some as big around as a sharpee marker. What sizes do you guys suggest?????

I assume that large sizes hold more scent, but may change the action of the lure/hoochie, etc.

 

[SilverBullets]

Yarn does work well to hold scent. I've used these to do the same thing. They're sold as a steelhead attractor and the line is ran through them via a hole in the plastic underneth the yarn material. I've got some hoochies made up with these and have used them above the hooks on wedding ring type spinners and apex's with good success.

 

[smokin' Kokes]

dim

2 major concepts

1. cut off 1 1/2 inches of yarn, separate into smaller strands
just enough to fill inside of hoochie when pulled down over the yarn. put the section of yarn thru egg loop of hook or tie just above eye of hook so that yarn will extend below hoochie 1/4"
slide hoochie over yarn and hook after applying scent.
i like the small diameter yarns for this. less pulling strands apart.
i go for thin strand, more as a hoochie tail spreader and teeth snagger.

2. silver B's method, much like yarn side drift lure for steelhead. section of yarn over the top of the hoochie. at least that is what my old eyes see in the picture.

i've even fished just yarn on the hooks for kokes, it works.

experiment.
what works one day will leave a guy glued to his seat with an empty fish box the next. kokes are like women, finicky and biologically designed for change.