Hoochies, Short or Long

[Full_Monte]

I think that every lure type requires different leader lengths, dodger/flasher choices and boat speeds. I don't have as much experience as some of you, but I do catch fish on a variety of lures including apex and hootchies. With a hootchie, you have to shorten the leader a LOT compared to an apex. The hoochie will get some action only when it is pretty close to the dodger. The longer the leader, the less action it will have. I'm often using 6-9 inch leaders on hootchies. I like the wiggle hootchies from Shasta Tackle and Crystal Basin because they wiggle like an apex and have the skirt of a hootchie. Those I can use longer leaders with.

 

[SuperD]

Here is what I would consider the true micro from Goldstar/Silver Horde at 1.5" long.

 

[Troutfoolery]

I was able to order the 1.5 LP shrimp from Fishermans wharehouse.

 

[platypus]

I've run a spin-n-glo in front of a hoochie (did not try to attach the two together) with some success, maybe have a glow bead between the two. Making the hoochies work will have a lot to do with what you run them behind. Using a dodger or a sling blade and having the right leader length to create good action at the hoochie is really important.

--clip one wing of the spin-n-glow for more wobble.

 

[cowlitzsteelie1977]

#15 Yama****a/Goldstar Micro Squids with a glo bead inside with shoepeg corn in secret sauce, tail hook finger width apart. #1 and #2 hooks. Oh yeah. 8" to 10" behind an Arrow, Simon or Slingblade dodger. All day long. Kokanee in the cooler.

 

[cowlitzsteelie1977]

Is Yama****a and dirty word?

 

[SuperD]

Yamafeces to be more sophisticated.

 

[cowlitzsteelie1977]

Yama$h!ta.... Silverhorde imports them. Anywho, they work fantistico... Yamafeces....Bahahahahaha!!

 

[trollingScotsman]

I like the shorter ones myself. I tie my own and love the action of adding the wiggle bill. I've had very good luck with them so far.

 

[mrmike]

A lot of time has past since this was posted,and numerous new product have enter the market place that I fell are more productive. I've notice small mini stuff has been the go to product,but every lake fished different I'm a tube fly trolling type guy. I haven't use a hoochies in 5 years.

 

[SuperD]

I got turned on to a site this Summer with some great mini hoochies. They are out of Canada however so delivery isn't real quick but Winter is a good time to order up for the season.

 

[trollingScotsman]

A lot of time has past since this was posted,and numerous new product have enter the market place that I fell are more productive. I've notice small mini stuff has been the go to product,but every lake fished different I'm a tube fly trolling type guy. I haven't use a hoochies in 5 years.

I must say that I have never heard of a tube fly but that may be becauae I'm in California (sounds like another reason to move out of the state lol). You peaked my interest so I went to my local Sportsmans Warehouse today but I was unable to find any. Do you troll them at the surface of at depth? I would love to get my hands on a few of them and give it a try.

 

[SuperD]

Jim, I started making them a few years ago while I was still in Cali. You fish them just like a hoochie. Here is a thread with some details.

http://www.kokaneefishingforum.com/fishing-forums/showthread.php?8408-Kokanee-Flies

You can also use the Pline tinsel inserts. I buy the 2.5" insert and cut 3/4" - 1" off them.

 

[trollingScotsman]

Jim, I started making them a few years ago while I was still in Cali. You fish them just like a hoochie. Here is a thread with some details.

http://www.kokaneefishingforum.com/fishing-forums/showthread.php?8408-Kokanee-Flies

You can also use the Pline tinsel inserts. I buy the 2.5" insert and cut 3/4" - 1" off them.

Oh no! I love making my own lures. Now I've got to try this! Don't worry, I won't let my wife know who got me started...

 

[mrmike]

I must say that I have never heard of a tube fly but that may be becauae I'm in California (sounds like another reason to move out of the state lol). You peaked my interest so I went to my local Sportsmans Warehouse today but I was unable to find any. Do you troll them at the surface of at depth? I would love to get my hands on a few of them and give it a try.

I started to experiment with Crystal flash,an started going into fly shops, this really open my eyes and imagination these guys are way ahead of us when it comes to fshing. Everything you need is at a fly shop,different colored rabbit fur, feathers,all can be made into tubefly. You don't need to use a straw,everything is there to make the tube there's numerous colored thread ,numerous color wires. Its like tying a fly using threat,glue,an emagination. I have also designed the school of fshing a flasher introduced by Oregon bait it's a killer at times instead of a wobbler. My suggeation visit a fly tying shop

 

[trollingScotsman]

I started to experiment with Crystal flash,an started going into fly shops, this really open my eyes and imagination these guys are way ahead of us when it comes to fshing. Everything you need is at a fly shop,different colored rabbit fur, feathers,all can be made into tubefly. You don't need to use a straw,everything is there to make the tube there's numerous colored thread ,numerous color wires. Its like tying a fly using threat,glue,an emagination. I have also designed the school of fshing a flasher introduced by Oregon bait it's a killer at times instead of a wobbler. My suggeation visit a fly tying shop

I will do that for sure. I've been googling a lot about the subject and I will stop by a local fly shop so I can get a better idea of the materials available. I cant wait to give it a try.