tprovins
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smoke your fish at came every night
First time fishing Flaming Gorge
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Processing your catch in camp does not remove them from your in possession count.
tprovins
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we do it every year and have been check and they don't stop us from taking another limit the next day
I'm not buying it! Processed - unprocessed, or in your freezer at home a 1,000 miles away they are still in Possesion and every fish cop in Wyo is going to ticket you for over possession. Don't take the chance guys. We all understand it sucks only keeping 3 of the best Kokes in the world, but that's what keeps this fishery what it is!!!! Read the regs and fully understand them before going out!
smokepoles
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Yup, I can not find it i the regulations that 'ready-for-table' does not count towards possession. Now, I find that interesting in that Utah does not count upland birds as part of passion limit if 'ready-for-table'.
On another point, Utah regs make it clear that you can continue fishing once you reach a possession limit. Is that the case in Wyoming?
submoa
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If you have two days limit in your possession and have been checked at Flaming Gorge by a Wildlife LE Officer, there is only one thing you'd have, and it's a ticket and they'll take the excessive fish. They do check, they will cite you. It's pretty black and white, they don't have a lot of room for officer discretion. I think we'd all like to see the law changed to some extend, so you don't drive all that way and can only take one days possession home. Kind of sucks. I've eaten Kokanee for breakfast, lunch and dinner so I can fish the next day legally. Good news is, the pup macs are good in the smoker as well. You can take home 8 of those (1 of which can be over 28"). Anyone thought of this? If he freezes them, overnights them home? Wife puts them in the freezer at his residence? Wouldn't that be legal? Don't know how you'd do it from Flaming Gorge, but just speaking crazy, looks like once their in your permanent residence your okay (if you're in UT and fish were caught in UT). Not that I'm an expert on the regs.
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submoa
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UT changed the regs this year to exclude what's in the freezer at your permanent residence. Unless this doesn't apply to Flaming Gorge?? I would guess this would only apply if you're catching the Kokes in UT not WY.
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submoa
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Cut and pasting from the UT 2015 Regulations.
Keeping fish at home
Starting January 1, 2015, any fish species at your permanent residence will not count as part of your possession limit. Please keep in mind that this does NOT allow you to take home multiple daily limits of fish in one day. You may take home only one daily limit per day.
Keeping fish at home
Starting January 1, 2015, any fish species at your permanent residence will not count as part of your possession limit. Please keep in mind that this does NOT allow you to take home multiple daily limits of fish in one day. You may take home only one daily limit per day.
There are many States that have a minimum of 5 fish limits and many with a possession limit equal to 2 daily limits. With the number of Kokes in the Gorge I've just never been able to wrap my head around the 3 fish daily and in possession. Very frustrating and leads to making a lot of law breakers trying to get around it. I've bought licenses for members in my party that weren't fishing just to obtain their available limit. Personally, I think a 5 fish limit would allow someone to take home 10 - 20 lbs of Kokanee and alleviate a lot of the game playing that takes place.
Wy Regs state harvesting (animals killed for human consumption), counts towards possession.
Propnut69
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Who checked you? Wy g&f. Ut g&f, a forest ranger?. Because they seem to not know the regs. Smoked or not they still count as part of your limit.
Propnut69
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As a local that fishes the gorge, I do see your side as if it's worth it or not. When you can only take three kokes back home with you. I don't see why your pissed through. You know what the regs are before you come to the gorge to fish. It's not like you drove 800 miles ,just to find out that you can't take all your catch home with you That's just the way it is. that is how Wyo & Utah manage the koke at the gorge. I would't hold my breath on Wyo changing the regs any time soon, so that more out of staters can take more fish home.
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Propnut69
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So let me get this right. If i go to the gorge and harvest three kokes,and take them to my home in Utah. The three kokes that are in my freezer at my house, do not count a being part of total fish in possession? It would't matter if the fish were caught in Utah or Wyo.
I spent part of my Sunday watching taped fishing shows and one was about catching Walleye in Ontario, Canada. There daily limit was 1 between 13" & 17" and 1 over 24". They kept going on and on about how it was easy to catch 40 fish a day and yet the limit was only 2. Some times fish management just makes ya wanna shake your head.
Dorado
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Those walleye grow super slow up there. A 24" walleye might be 10+ years old. When the lakes were first being fished, people regularly hauled coolers of fish home, and the fishing quickly went downhill. Now most of the lakes up there have very restrictive limits--you can eat all the fish you want while you are there, but only bring a few fish back with you. And low and behold, the fishing is now really good. I would not be too quick to judge without some background knowledge....
I'm not pissed, more like disappointed. Not only do I want to experience fishing there, but it would be nice to have full smoker. I understand the rules and will abide by them. I don't expect the law will change, not unless a nuclear bomb goes off.
Got the full background knowledge watching the show. My point was that any lake with easy 40 fish days doesn't really need a 2 fish a day limit. And I won't even begin the argument about how many fish are really killed on catch and release outings like that.
submoa
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I don't know about fish caught in WY. I cut and pasted the verbiage right from the 2015 UT fishing regs. Check for yourself it's on page 3, I could be wrong.
On a side note, I believe most of the State of UT has gone to two daily possessions of fish. Flaming Gorge, Strawberry and maybe others were excluded.
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Propnut69
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found this on page 19 of the Utah guide book. It's looks like Strawberry and the gorge are both except from the 2 possession rule. This might help to clear up some of the confusion about how many limits of gorge kokes can be kept.
Daily limits and
possession limits
Residents and nonresidents who are under
12 years of age may fish without a license and
take a full possession limit.
Starting Jan. 1, in addition to one legal
daily limit of fish, you may also possess one additional
limit of fish as long as those fish meet
all of the following requirements:
•They were caught on a previous day.
•They have been cleaned and gutted
(entrails removed).
•They are a legal species and limit for the
waterbody where you were fishing.
The above rule applies to most waterbodies,
where you may have a maximum of two
daily limits in your possession at any one
time. The only exceptions to this rule are at
Strawberry Reservoir and Flaming Gorge,
where you may have only one daily limit in
your possession.
When calculating your possession limit,
please remember the following rules:
•Any trout, salmon or grayling not immediately
released is part of your possession
limit.
Daily limits and
possession limits
Residents and nonresidents who are under
12 years of age may fish without a license and
take a full possession limit.
Starting Jan. 1, in addition to one legal
daily limit of fish, you may also possess one additional
limit of fish as long as those fish meet
all of the following requirements:
•They were caught on a previous day.
•They have been cleaned and gutted
(entrails removed).
•They are a legal species and limit for the
waterbody where you were fishing.
The above rule applies to most waterbodies,
where you may have a maximum of two
daily limits in your possession at any one
time. The only exceptions to this rule are at
Strawberry Reservoir and Flaming Gorge,
where you may have only one daily limit in
your possession.
When calculating your possession limit,
please remember the following rules:
•Any trout, salmon or grayling not immediately
released is part of your possession
limit.
tprovins
Member
From what I was told by fish and game on the Utah side once the fish has been cook or smoke it doesn't go against your possession limit any more thats what I was talking about now if thats different in WY I don't know. They told use that last year well we smoking a batch above the docks. If thats wrong I was tolled wrong.
