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here is one i started using. this is excellent. just did a batch of pinks that we caught up in the sound last sept.

2 cups water
2 cups orange juice
3 cups brown sugar
2 cups kikkoman teriyaki
1 1/4 cups of salt
2 tbsp garlic powder
honey



Brine from 8 hours to 24 hours. Rinse fish and rack dry until fish is “tacky”. Smoke with apple or cherry chips first hour. Leave in smoker until fully cooked/dried. baste with honey about an hour before removing from smoker.
 

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skinning fish

HiTechKoke, you said you skin your fillet's before you smoke. I would like to do this but always have trouble with meat sticking to the wire. What's your secret? Do you do anything special to prepare the metal? Or is your brine enough to keep the meat from sticking? I would really like to know because I much prefer skinning my fillet's over scaling them.

If you have trouble skinning fish, look into a Townsend Fish Skinner Townsend Engineering Co. Des Moines, Iowa. I have used one for years .
No fuss- no mess.Does not look like it will work, but it will.
 
No trouble with skinning, it's the easiest way I know to prepare the koke's. It takes just a few seconds and if you do it right you will lose absolutely no meat. I really like my newest fillet knife for this. It's called a Kommer's Big Eddy and it has a bevel on one side and is hollow-ground on the other. This makes it so it just slips the meat right off the skin almost like magic. A regular fillet knife works well also but the design of this knife eliminates some of the vacuum that can build up between the meat and the blade.

My worries were over the meat sticking to the rack in the smoker, but I'm going to try it with some cooking spray and see what it does. Of course, first I've got to catch enough koke to actually make it to the smoker. I'm a large eater and can really put these fish away. And the rest of my family is the same way. I remember the first time that I ever went koke fishing I had been invited by some friends of mine. When it came time to fry some of them up for lunch they asked me how many I thought I could eat and I told them about a dozen or so. The way they looked at me you'd have thought I had just told a dirty joke in a church. They had never heard of anyone eating more that 3 at the most. I just laughed and then proceeded to show them that a dozen was easily done.
 
Mass consumption of fish flesh

Skookum I can put some fish away myself. Got to wonder what nut decided a piece of meat or fish the size of a deck of cards is proper portion size. I was wondering if you had a trick to frying kokes. I have had awesome results grilling koke fillets ,but not so much on frying them.
 
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Old school simplicity

I just had a batch of kokes turn out great without a lot of work. I used a simple dry cure from an oldtimer at deer camp.

For 5-6 kokes
  1. In a medium size bowl comine 1 cup Brown Sugar, 1 cup Granulated White Sugar, 1 cup Kosher salt.
  2. Filet fish, rinse and pat dry .
  3. In 1 gal. ziplock bags place filets one layer per bag. Coat both sides with sugar/salt curing mix. Seal. Place in refrigerator overnight.
  4. Rinse cured filets and pat dry. Lightly season with lemon pepper or crushed red pepper. Allow to sit and air out appx. 1 hour
  5. Smoke to your liking.

I generally use 1 pan of cherry wood chips and 2 pans of alder for 3.5-4.5 hours. If you need more cure, keep with the 1:1:1 ratio.
 
This is the one I use for kokanee & trout up to 20” it keeps them moist and have had great feed back.
I fillet all my fish brine for 9 hours in the fridge then rinse fillets put on racks sprayed with Pam, air dry for an hour and smoke at 160 degrees for 6 to 8 hours. One hour before they are done I baste with honey. I have a big smoker made with full sheets of plywood and covered with metal roofing it looks allot like an out house. I leave them in the smoker for about an hour then start adding the chips that have been soaked in water I use apple, normally hit them with smoke about 5 times. For heat I have a propane burner that was a crab cooker works great.

4 quarts water
2 cups light brown sugar
1 cup fine sea salt (Kirkland fine sea salt from Costco)
2 tablespoons ground mace
1 tablespoon ground white pepper
1 tablespoon ground allspice
1 teaspoon dill seeds
2 tablespoons granulated garlic
Mix all ingredients together until salt and sugar is dissolved and put in fridge for a couple of hours take out mix again and add fillets.
 

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trollmonkey, sorry that I didn't reply to your question when you wrote it, I guess I must have missed it. If you are still interested in frying some kokes but don't know how, this is what I do.

I first start with bone free and skin free fillets. I then cut these fillets into pieces of equal thickness. For example, I cut all of the belly meat off so that they can be fried together since they will fry very quickly. Then I cut all of the tail meat off from the thicker body meat since this take longer than the belly meat but not as long as the body meat. Then, if the fish are large enough, I will halve the thickness of the body meat so as to make sure that it cooks all the way through more evenly.

Once these preparations are made and the fish is freshly washed, I salt and pepper to taste. Once seasoned to taste, I then roll each piece in corn meal ensuring that it is completely covered. Some people prefer straight flour, and others a 50/50 mix of flour and corn meal. I like the corn meal because it makes the fish crispier and this is the way I like my fish. Once I have several fish ready to fry I get my skillet ready. I usually use vegetable oil but sometimes will use olive oil instead. I like to make sure I use plenty of grease, too little and I have trouble not burning the grease. I cannot tell you what heat to bring the grease to, I only know to go by sight and sound. I know that I want my fish to sizzle well when I first lay them in the skillet. Be warned though that if you get the grease too hot you will begin to burn your corn meal and this will ruin the fish you cook after that so you'll want to start over with a clean skillet and fresh grease before you continue after such an occurance. Your fish will cook faster and crispier if you learn to cook them with a lid but it does take more skill to do so without burning them.

From the cooking posts I've seen from others on this site, I'm quite certain that there are some who can give you good advice on the right temperatures to bring your grease to. But there is some joy in just playing it by ear and learning by trial and error as well.

When your fish are done in the skillet, make sure you lay them out on a clean dry paper towel so they can drain the excess grease. But it is at this time that you will really have to watch your fish closely, during this cooling process is when they really begin to disappear, if you know what I mean.

If you do not want to fillet your fish, there is another option for you that may not be as good but will be better than nothing. If you split your fish down the middle lengthwise, cutting right along the spine, you will allow the meat to cook up better than it otherwise would if you were to try frying it whole. It will still have the bones but at least the meat will be a lot crispier.

Again, I apologize for not seeing your question earlier, but if you enjoy this method let me know. I've not had any trouble with having too many fish, ever. This is the same way I fry trout, bass, bluegill, crappie, steelhead and even salmon. Of course, I don't think fried fish can ever compare to those roasted fresh right over a good alder wood fire. Best wishes to you and happy eating.

Skookum
 
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here is my latest batch done about a week ago. i used the brine that i posted earlier in this thread. i didnt have any teriyaki, so i used one extra cup of brown sugar and one cup of sweet and sour marinade. i only brined for around 12 hours and opted not to rinse the fish due to a lessoned brine contact time. used hickory for my smoke. they turned out awesome!! king and a chunk of silver salmon. i had to eat some right after i pulled it out too. couldnt waittongue2
 

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